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So, it's absolutely fine for providers to take on learners who've left somewhere else. The initial provider will have withdrawn them, so will take a hit to their retention factor to reduce their funding. Because of the lagged nature of Study Prog funding, there's not really a concept of "funding remaining" for an individual in-year as such, you just record the hours the learner is doing with you and that will determine their band (and, unless it's November, this is fairly unlikely to be Band 5).
There was an FRM report (FRM02) which showed us when learners were "overlapping" (ie where the initial organisation *hadn't* withdrawn them in a timely manner), but it was withdrawn this year (they tried adding the schools census data in, but it was hot garbage) and, despite some suggestion that it might return after R10, it hasn't popped up yet...
Best thing to do is have a statement on your enrolment/IAG paperwork where a learner declares that they've definitely withdrawn from wherever it was that they were initially.
Hi Steve!
Many thanks for the response. Very interesting too, we're yet to see any overlapping on any reports thankfully.
Some learners appear to be withdrawn after a substantial amount of their SP has been delivered/claimed, and without knowing details it could very well be band 5 is already fully claimed.
Often the learner disputes the PLR too. As standard we ask them to detail this in the paperwork.
A bit of a nightmare to navigate...
The main problem is after Easter in April and May with those who have *completed* a Study Prog somewhere else in the academic year. It's OK if they've withdrawn, but putting together a form that explains exactly where they've been and what they've done (with PLR as backup but not the final word) is the best option to keep the Auditors onside.
Emma Bovill
16-19 more than 1 study programme in a year
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Morning all,
We’re seeing an increasing number of young people withdrawing from the other provider’s Study Programmes and wanting to enrol onto ours.
We’re aware of the following in the ‘Funding guidance for young people 2022 to 2023 rates and formula.’ guidance:
"ESFA will not fund students to take more than one full-time study programme or the equivalent in multiple part-time programmes in one provider in one funding year. If it is appropriate for students to take multiple part-time programmes in one year, providers must not claim more than the equivalent of a full-time programme."
Our programmes start throughout the year and are not usually full-time. But how do you begin to work out what funding is remaining, if any?
And how strict are auditors about this?
Thank you in advance!
Emma