Claire Marshall

Recording apprenticeship standard completions

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Hi all, 

 

When someone completes the degree element and enters into gateway, I update the zprog learning aim to outcome 8 and leave the rest of the record.

 

Now I am questioning myself, in this cases should I be recording the zprog as completion status 1 and outcome 8 and updating the other learning aim with completion status 2, actual end date and outcome 1?

Thank you in advance

Claire

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Ben James

Pretty much, as by updating the ZPROG to 8 you're saying all learning activities have been completed.

When the training period for the apprenticeship standard is complete, but the end point assessment period is incomplete, the Outcome must be recorded as code 8 ‘Learning activities are complete but the outcome is not yet known’. Where the Outcome is recorded as code ‘8’, the learning actual end date must also recorded, as all learning activities have taken place.

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Claire Marshall

Hi Ben,

Thank you, we have been recording the zprog as 1&8 when learning has completed but EPA hasn't been sat yet.

In this case, should the other learning aim (not the zprog) be recorded as completion status 2, actual end date as last date of learning and outcome 1?

Thanks,

Claire

Ben James

Ideally 2/1 yes, but could arguably be 2/8 depending on the circumstance (e.g., they've finished learning, you 'know' they've passed but it's pending assessment board)

Claire Marshall

I am sure I have lost the plot, I swear we used to get an error when we recorded the aim as completion status 1, actual end date recorded and outcome 8. I have just tried it now and no errors....

Ben James

It shouldn't ever error for programme aims (AimType = 1), but will error if you try to 1/8 on component aims, maybe it was that? Or could just be a case of ILR gremlins

 

Martin West

Some degree standards assessment contains the following:

Performance in the EPA will count towards the overall degree classification. Apprentices cannot successfully complete the degree and therefore the apprenticeship standard without successfully passing the EPA.

You will need to check the assessment plan before recording the degree aim.

HTH

Claire Marshall

Martin West I assume this will be our integrated degrees apps (we run both integrated and non-integrated)

For non-integrated ones who have completed the degree element we have been updating the programme aim to 1&8 and leaving the component learning aim as it is until they complete EPA and then we complete both learning aims in one go. I realise now that for non-integrated one we should record the programme aim as 1&8 and then record the componenet learning aim as 2&1 and record the actual end date.

Always learning....

 

Ben James

Integrated apprenticeships are interesting because they raise the question of what you do with the main aim once the 'training' part of the degree has been completed. As Martin says, full achievement of the degree (main aim) is tied to completion of the EPA, in the case of a lot of integrated apprenticeships, so you wouldn't be able to mark it as 'achieved' until the EPA module had been completed/conferred. You could argue that you would be able to mark the main aim as 'complete' before they'd done EPA though, on the basis that the completion status measures the learning activities, which would've finished before the EPA module. So you could update the ILR as (on the basis that learning towards the degree finished today):

  • ZPROG - 1-continuing/ 8-learning activities complete outcome not known/ learning actual end date-06/07/23
  • Main Aim - 2-complete/ 8-learning activities complete outcome not known/ learning actual end date-06/07/23

Is this what you do now, or do you have a different approach? Some definitive technical guidance from the ESFA on the coding of integrated apps would of course be welcome, but I appreciate it's difficult to account for all of the variations of assessment plan

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Claire Marshall

@... Our integrated apprenticeships only even have 2 months (at most) between the end of the 'training' part and they date they sit EPA and so we just record the full achievement in one go.

Martin West

This also may apply in the future where standards at any level are updated in line with the new IfATE policy for mandatory aims see: https://www.instituteforapprenticeships.org/about/newshub/news-events/ifate-launches-new-mandatory-qualifications-policy/

Under the new system, IfATE will work with employers and awarding bodies to:

Ensure qualifications match up to employer-defined knowledge, skills and behaviours that apprentices must learn to prove they can do the job.

Integrate professional qualification tests and EPA where possible. Some apprentices currently drop out after getting their professional qualification, before sitting their EPA, which means they never complete their apprenticeship. IfATE wants to put a stop that.

I think the recording of 2/8 for main aims would be correct where this policy is included in assessment plans in the future.

HTH