Emma Hall

ILR Errors and struggling to clear

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Hi All - Need some help and running out of time to get my ILR in without any errors showing!

I have 2 trainees that have now finished and I have added destination info in, however I am still getting this error with them.....

Rule Name Field Values Error Message
Outcome_08 LearnStartDate=03/11/2022|ProgType=24|LearnActEndDate=01/05/2023|Outcome=1| There must be a Destination and progression record returned for this Outcome
Outcome_08 LearnStartDate=03/11/2022|ProgType=24|LearnActEndDate=26/06/2023|Outcome=1| There must be a Destination and progression record returned for this Outcome

What am I missing - I can't seem to find anything online about this rule name and error message - Anyone know what I am missing and how to rectify?

Thanks in advance!

Ems

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Ben James

This is the rule description:

For aims starting on or after 1st August 2015 (LearningDelivery.LearnStartDate => 2015-08-01), that are a a traineeship (LearningDelivery.ProgType = 24) and a programme aim (LearningDelivery.AimType = 1), if the outcome is achieved (LearningDelivery.Outcome = 1), there must be a Destination and progression record with an Outcome code of 'Self Employed', 'Employed', 'Apprenticeship' or 'Other FE' which occurs within six months of the end of the programme 

Does your destination and progression record have one of those outcome codes and is the 'start' within 6 months of the end of the programme? If not, that's your issue

Martin West

The rule is:

For aims starting on or after 1st August 2015 (LearningDelivery.LearnStartDate => 2015-08-01), that are a a traineeship (LearningDelivery.ProgType = 24) and a programme aim (LearningDelivery.AimType = 1), if the outcome is achieved (LearningDelivery.Outcome = 1), there must be a Destination and progression record with an Outcome code of 'Self Employed', 'Employed', 'Apprenticeship' or 'Other FE' which occurs within six months of the end of the programme 

(error where there is no matching DPPutcome record (where Learner.LearnRefNumber = LearnerDestinationandProgression.LearnRefNumber) with (DPOutcome.OutType = EMP and DPOutcome.OutCode = 1 or 4) or (DPOutcome.OutType = EDU and DPOutcome.OutCode = 2, 4 or 5) and DPOutcome.OutStartDate < (LearningDelivery.LearnActEndDate + 6months))

HTH

Ben James

Jinx ;)

Emma Hall

And if at the moment, the outcome is neither self employed, employed, apprenticeship or other FE ? and is still in the air as such ?

Sorry if I've not understood correctly - this is the first time I've got to this point with destinations since starting. 

Thx Ems 

Ben James

This may help you as it describes the different outcome possibilities and how you should code your ILR

Provider Support Manual: 2023 to 2024 - Recording destination and progression information (submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk)

Jade Wilson

Hi, I currently have this error for one of our learners and it's driving me mad!

Trainee completed on 20/06/2023. Progressed to an apprenticeship (EDU2) with a start date of 22/09/2023 - achieved 03/11/2023 with an outcome collection date of 06/11/2023. I still have error Outcome_08 showing. Any advice on this one please? Thank you.