Firoza Patten

R151 - LDM 391 must be returned, earnings threshold

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Hello,
We've suddenly got a lot of errors that were not a problem on the last return. 

Have some rule changes suddenly happened??

We can't figure out why we are getting the error - Should we set LDM to 391 for an employed learner not on benefits or a low wage?

Learner :  age 24+, Funding model 38, In paid Employment 31+ hours, First Level 3
Level 3 learning Aim : 6032496X
DAM CODES:  LDM =378 Adult level 3 offer, DAM = 023 GLA exclusion, fully funded

LearnStartDate=17/09/2024|DateOfBirth=xx/xx/1997|LearnDelFAMType=SOF|LearnDelFAMCode=116|LearnDelFAMType=FFI|LearnDelFAMCode=1|LearnDelFAMType=LDM|LearnDelFAMCode=378|LearnDelFAMType=DAM|LearnDelFAMCode=023|

ERROR MESSAGE : If the learner is earning below the earnings threshold, LDM 391 must be returned

Help.

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Hi Firoza,

I am getting the same, and have been trying to figure this out since yesterday, so sorry but pleased someone else is getting this as I just couldn't figure out what to do about this error.  

I presume this is change that has just been made as we haven't had this previously, hopefully someone will be able to help with a solution for this.

Kind Regards

Lisa

Josh Hough

R_151 is currently in the Submit Learner Data known issues guidance:

Submit Learner Data known issues - GOV.UK

Firoza Patten

Thank you Lisa, Lets hope we figure it out soon :O

Thanks Josh, Looks like the known issue is for returning learners - I don't think our learners are returning learners though :(

 

Josh Hough

I think looking at the advice that there are currently two separate issues with the rule, one regarding returning learners and another where there is a technical issue with the DAM code exclusion 023.

Although even if that is the case it doesn't give any guidance on what to do while the issue is under investigation.

Firoza Patten

Hi Josh,

Thank you for your help. Really appreciate you checking this :D

Firoza Patten

Hi Lisa,
I managed to get rid of the errors for now by removing DAM 023 and adding LDM 391.

ILR field ILR code 
FFI 1 Fully funded learning aim 
LDM 378 Adult Level 3 Offer 
LDM 391 Earnings Threshold (national)

I'm sure they'll pop back up at some point, in the DSAT or FRM or GLA OPs Validation errors lol.

when DAM 023 is working properly again we may need to revisit.

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Hi Firoza,

Thanks so much for your help with this, glad to be able to see a resolution for this, its always a relief to see them go isn't it!