Christina Marfleet

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Anyone else think that it would be useful if this PDSAT gave the lowest notional calculated minimum requirement would be?   Or it would be handy for them to give us a standardized calculator that took in term time apprentices as well as full time?

We always seem to have learners on this, and although they are "are you sure" reports it would be nice to know how far under our figure is over the notional minimum as some can be explained by term time (hopefully).

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Martin West

This report uses Employment Intensity (EEI in Hours per week), Programme Duration (weeks on Programme) and calculates the Total hours on Programme and then deducts the Holiday entitlement (weeks on Programme/52) X (EEI in Hours per week X 5.6).

The report does identify correctly where the recorded hours are less that calculated, I suspect you have not adjusted the EEI correctly where the Apprentice is term time only.

HTH

Steve Hewitt

Because of the way it counts Sundays to work out how many weeks are on a programme*, it can get a bit weird round the margins for part-timers/TTOs, even where you've recorded EII correctly, but is definitely the first thing to check.

*NB this is not an official way to do it, but it's what KPMG told me they were doing...

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Christina Marfleet

Thank you both, redoing the sums and making corrections and running another ILR through DSAT seems to have cleared the few we have worked on, most were only 2 or 3 hours out but I know that's a funding claw back. 

Martin West would I be correct in saying that a learner who works 32 hours a week Term Time only (39 weeks) should have a EII bracket as if they work only 24 hours a week ((32 x 39)/52) so rather than EEI being 08: Learner is employed 31+ hours, it should be coded EII = 07 Learner is employed 21 to 30 hours. 

Christina Marfleet

Also I don't normally see the OTJ calculation that is done, but checking over these some of the Term Time learners have their leave entitlement as 0, which in terms of employment can't be correct as everyone is entitled to holiday pay, even if that is mandated to be taken in school holidays.

But is it correct to put 0 in the OTJ calculator?  

Many thanks.
Christina

Martin West

Yes as this would indicate they were part time and align with the increased minimum duration.

As you have indicated they should have holiday entitlement and if this is taken out of term time the EEI hours calculation would require the holiday entitlement to be added to the 39 weeks in the calculation.

These do get complicated.

HTH