Steve Hewitt

Traineeship with two placements, how can both claim incentive?

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Morning all

Interesting one here. We have some (16-18) Traineeships who are doing two 70+ hour placements with separate employers and, obviously, both of these employers would like to claim the £1000 incentive.

The rules here say this is fine:

Traineeships: framework for delivery 2021 to 2022 - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

177: Where multiple placements are being delivered to benefit the trainee, the employer can still access the payment following completion of the work placement, subject to the employer delivering for a minimum period of 70 hours.

...but, for the payment to go through, ESFA match employer details to ***delivery postcode*** on the aim, so if there are two Work Placement records hanging off the ZWRKX001 aim, it can't match for both of them.

PSM is clear that traineeships should only have one Placement aim (in-year)

Provider support manual: Work experience (submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk)

Anyone worked out a way around it? I think I could fudge two ZWRK aims where the placements are in series (problem is they're the core aim, what's that going to mess up down the line?), but really not sure about them in parallel...

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Christina Marfleet

Hi Steve, I've just been looking at this and noticed that for some of our traineeship learners (3) the Delivery Postcode has been pointing at our center rather than at the employer postcode, yet the employers have successfully claimed their incentive payments.

ETA: we've had learners do two placements and it has gone through with only one work placement aim and both employers have claimed the incentives successfully. 

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Christina Marfleet

The learner has completed 2 work placements and both employers have met the eligibility for the incentive payment. Can they both claim?

Yes. If they have both met the minimum hours required, then they are both eligible to claim for the incentive payment. The provider will need to ensure that all fields within the ILR are completed correctly. For multiple placements we will check the details held within the Work Placement Learning Aim and the Work Placement records, providers must ensure that all Work Placement record start and end dates are filled in correctly and we will only process and approve claims for completed placements, so any placements that contain future dates/planned end dates will not be processed.

Providers will need to ensure that the employer is made aware of the correct postcodes that the has completed with the fields on the ILR.

Steve Hewitt

Ooh nice, where's that from please?

Steve Hewitt

Lovely, ta!