Overseas apprenticeship privately funded

Would you need a NINO if it was FM99?

Think I might be tempted to leave it off though, would chat to EPAO first perhaps, explain the situation?

Possibly not, the trouble we have is our system has it as a mandatory field so we can't push it through the system without. Might just add the temporary one and see if it comes up as an error. 

Never had this before but good shout, will see what the EPAO says

If they are overseas and being paid for privately, then they are not on an apprenticeship are they?  They would not need to be on the ILR or do EPA if they are not on an apprenticeship.

The employer is a UK employer that we already deliver an apprenticeship programme to. They have staff working overseas but would also like them to complete the same programme. As they are not living in the UK we know we can't fund them but the EPA is done remotely and they have said they have done this before. 

I tried the service desk and they came back with the below

Apprentices need to be currently living in England to be eligible for funded apprenticeships, if a company is looking at privately training international employees we can not advise on this process as it is outside the remit of the apprenticeship scheme. The apprenticeship scheme generally applies to companies based in England that are hiring in England, and going through the funded apprenticeship process. We can not provide advice on how this would be conducted privately.

So I suppose the question is, if the employer is happy to pay, we don't get it funded and EPAO is happy to assess and cert it then is there anything stopping us doing so?

See, if this was on twitter, I'd reply with a gif of Starship singing "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" but you'll just have to imagine it ;)

Ha ha thanks Steve that songs going to be stuck in my head all day now!

Hi Simon - just wondering what the outcome was of your query?

Hi Carrie Rogers the EPAO was happy in this case and they arranged for certificates to go out directly to the learner and their overseas address. 

Hi Simon Liversedge how did you get round the NI number issue?

Collection requirements state must be collected for FM99 but learners are in a country where this is not used.

thanks

Collection reqs may mention it, but it's not actually a Validation Rule to return it for anyone apart from Apps on the AS, so you'll be fine.

Carrie Rogers it's a little while ago now but I am sure we just left it blank and no one has mentioned it to me since so assuming its all good. Just noticed Steve has confirmed its not a validation rule so won't have been flagged.