Returning a Bil

Hi Heather, confused by what "it" is?

Have you put the Original Start Date in the new records? That's the thing that links the two bits of learning together. We definitely use the original TNP1 and 2 in returning BIL records though.

Thanks Steveh,

'It' was the funding report when running through FIS.

And yes to the original dates, we also included the re-start date.

That may be correct, see the following from the funding guide:

250. When the apprentice resumes learning, we expect you to enter a price against the new programme aim in the ILR. This price may be the same as you previously recorded for the programme but can be a revised price depending on the amount of learning now required. After applying the funding band maximum, we will subtract 20% of this price for completion and, if the price is not a residual price, we will subtract any earnings to date. We will spread the remainder equally over the remaining planned duration.

Aha, I was wondering if it was the indicative report from FIS.

Yes, it will do that, because it's DUMB and doesn't know how much you've had previously, so just splits the TNPs it can see over the duration it can see. Don't worry, the learner won't actually generate that much.

Brilliant, thanks both, that has put me at ease.  

Appreciate your input.

Thanks

Heather

(you would not believe how long it took me to realise the Indicative report was doing that and that that was the main reason I couldn't get indicative and the monthly payment report to match, so anyone else I can save that torture, I'm glad to do so!!!)

Steveh, reporting is a bit of a mess.

The funding calculation for returning from a BIL is correct in the indicative report from FIS but the indicative report from SLD has an issue where it incorrectly includes any balancing payment and outcome payment when the completion status is 1 and outcome 8 but it is correct in the payments report.

HTH

Ah, FIS only gets it right if the "first half" of the BIL is in the ILR as well, which not everyone/every system does when the gap spans funding years...  If it's not there then what Heather mentions happens.