Funding Functional Skills L2 where IA identifies learner at L2

Prior achievement takes precedence over M/E initial assessment see the following:

P142 For level 3 and above apprenticeships where the apprentice does not already hold the acceptable level 2 English and maths qualifications, we will fund the apprentice to achieve the qualification. The apprentice must commence tuition at the English and maths level immediately above the level at which they have been assessed at the start of their apprenticeship programme. In instances where this starting level is lower than the exit requirements, progression through the appropriate English and maths levels (as required in the apprenticeship standard) must be achieved.

HTH

Sure, but if there's nothing to teach them, you can't have the money.

Darren, I've been setting a (very personal) rule of thumb that if there isn't ten hours of stuff to teach them, then don't claim the money. If there's more than that to get them through the test, then you can have the £471.

Thanks both. 

Martin West, I guess the question is around correct use of public funds. If the learner has achieved L2 and doesn't require any training in order to sit the exam is it right to claim that funding?

Steve Hewitt, that's roughly my thoughts - if you can evidence some teaching requirement (and the associated delivery) then my current view is I'd be comfortable claiming the funding. Would you view a revision session as being sufficient (ignoring the point you made about 10 hours)?

Thanks

No If the learner has achieved L2 then even if the initial assessment is at or below L2 then you cannot claim funding.

HTH

Difference in terminology here, I think?

Darren, I assume by "achieved" you mean "learner has been assessed (by BKSB or whatever) as L2" and not "learner already has a level 2 qualification"?

I'd be a bit squicky about claiming £471 for a revision session myself, which isn't to say you couldn't get it through audit...

Correct, that's my fault, bad choice of wording. I was referring to them obtaining a L2 IA result rather than achieving a previous L2 qualification.

Thanks both, I think that answers the question.