Gary J

Evidence for new Universal Credit Claimants

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Hi,

We are an AEB provider delivering learning aims predominately to unemployed learners from the Job Centre.

In the funding guidance it reads:

"For funding purposes, we define a learner as unemployed if one or more of the following apply, they:

·        Receive Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA), including those receiving National Insurance credits only

·        Receive Employment and Support Allowance (ESA)

·        Receive Universal Credit (UC), and their take-home pay as recorded on their UC statement (disregarding UC payments and other benefits) is less than £494 a month (learner is sole adult in their benefit claim) or £782 a month (learner has a joint benefit claim with their partner)"

 

For learners that are currently receiving UC, we ask them to show us their UC statement to confirm their take home pay is below the threshold.  

However, we are starting to receive referrals from the Job Centre for new Universal Credit claimants who have not yet received their 1st UC statement, and they do not know what their take home pay will be and therefore we cannot at this time evidence that the learners take home pay is below the threshold.

Now we can ask the learners to self-declare they are receiving UC, however at this current moment in time we have no evidence of their take home pay, so we can't be 100% sure they are eligible for full funding.

Has anyone else come across this issue and if so, what actions have you taken? Would you enrol them as co-funded or as fully funded with a self-declaration, even though we don’t know for sure whether they will be below the threshold.

The learners are only with us for 2-3 weeks, so it's not viable to expect learners to send us a copy of their statement once they receive it as they won’t be learning with us anymore.

Any advice would be appreciated

Thanks, in advance

 

 

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Steve Hewitt

AEB Unemployed status is PURELY self-declaration and has been for over a decade. You have a box on your form that says "I am on UC and earning less than etc" and then the learner ticks it, job done. See

Adult education budget: funding and performance management rules 2022 to 2023 - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

  • if applicable, a learner’s self-declaration as to what state benefit they claim

Gary J

Hi Steve

Thanks for your reply, I guess my concern has been that these new claimants do not know what their take home pay is yet after deductions and won't know until their first statement, therefore self-declaring they are on UC is fine, but we are a bit nervous about them self-declaring their take home pay after deductions if they don't actually know what that value is yet.

 

Kelly Knights

Hi Gary,

Is there a chance you are confusing take home pay with their UC payment amount?

As if they are unemployed they are fully funded.

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