Ruth Smith

Method of calculating Co-investment Payments

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Hi

I would appreciate some help on how apprenticeship providers calculate and administer the co-investment payments due from employers?  

I know some providers are calculating up front and taking payment at the start.  However, the majority of our learners are on a 4 year apprenticeship and this would require a large initial payment.  This method also doesn't capture levy paying employers who run out of funding in any month, or SME's who become levy payers over the 4 years.

We have been relying on the co-investment report from the ESFA and invoicing monthly.  This was working fine for us, but there is no way of checking the calculations and we have been told (unofficially)  that these reports are not correct.

Can anyone offer any insight or advice please?

 

 

 

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Steve Hewitt

OK, never even heard anything about that report being "wrong" so I wouldn't worry about that, it's the only thing we have to use, particularly for those who run out of Levy. It's also the basis for whether you have sufficient in your PMRs to decide whether the Completion payment is released, so, in a sense, it doesn't matter if it's "wrong", it's the basis for that whole 20% of funding, so we kind of have to do what it says...

I thought that someone who starts as non-levy stays as non-levy, even if their employer grows and becomes a Levy payer during their apprenticeship, thus the 5% is still payable (and therefore easy to collect annually or quarterly rather than monthly)?

Steve Hewitt

(The closest I've heard to it being wrong is it struggles with those returning from a break if the initial part of their learning is no longer in your ILR and there are PMRs attached to it)

Ruth Smith

Thanks Steve,

You may be right about the non levy starts always staying as non levy.  That does make sense.

We are happy to continue using the report as the amount of small employers is minimal on our main contract, but we had a bit of a panic when we were told that we could not rely on the figures.   

We subcontract a few learners and there is a discrepancy over what the reports say we are owed (as the subcontractor) and what the lead provider says they owe us.  I will go back to them.

Thanks again for your input.