Martin Outlaw
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Martin Outlaw commented,
Hi, Where are you getting the R12 downloads? My dashboard is R12, but my downloads are R10. Martin
Hi, Where are you getting the R12 downloads? My dashboard is R12, but my downloads are R10. Martin
Martin Outlaw commented,
Downloaded and unzipped without issue; but it takes 3 minutes to load the app, 24/25 version took a couple of seconds. Is anyone one else having issues with it? M
Downloaded and unzipped without issue; but it takes 3 minutes to load the app, 24/25 version took a couple of seconds. Is anyone one else having issues with it? M
Martin Outlaw commented,
Honestly, I don't know which way to go with this one, It reads as Steve is suggesting, that providing you return the BIL record, that it will never be overdue, and never be treated as a leaver, that the AAF will be the backstop to ensure we don't keep leavers on BILs to inflate the QAR. So why refer to "overdue planned breaks" if the don't exist, surely it should say "We treat learning aims as withdrawals in the QAR methodology where they have a Completion status of 3, if they have a Completion status of 6 we will ignore them". Why all the confusion on which year they went on the break, when they were originally due to finish... Additionally, why include the field "overdue_planned_break" in the QAR data if the only possible outcome is FALSE. This definitely looks like something that needs an official clarification.
Honestly, I don't know which way to go with this one, It reads as Steve is suggesting, that providing you return the BIL record, that it will never be overdue, and never be treated as a leaver, tha...
Martin Outlaw commented,
Hi Chris, I am seeing a different picture with our data. The downloaded spreadsheet does contain the leavers from last year, and the year before with expected and dates in this year. That part of the cohort is correct. Yes, I do appear to be 4 learners short of the full cohort I was expecting, and these learners were on a planned break last year and have subsequently withdrawn this year, and yes they are all in our current ILR submission. We know that there is a new methodology being used for this year, and whilst I would not have expected it to have this effect, it may be the cause. Last year's comparative in this years dashboard, does not match last years R14 data. it is slightly better. So have we pushed 4 learners back from this year's cohort in to last year's, and a couple more from last year's in to 2022/23.... Without the full 3 years data in the download, it is difficult to be sure. Chris - all of our 104 / 105 show up on the dashboard under Operations or Departmental Manager, and Team leader or Supervisor for the 2022/23 comparative, and all in Operations Manager, and Team Leader for 2023/24 and 2024/25 Martin
Hi Chris, I am seeing a different picture with our data. The downloaded spreadsheet does contain the leavers from last year, and the year before with expected and dates in this year. That part of ...
Martin Outlaw commented,
This is still causing problems, I can get in with chrome, but Edge fails every time, despite clearing the cache many times. My Director can't get in at all. Any other ideas on how to resolve this?
This is still causing problems, I can get in with chrome, but Edge fails every time, despite clearing the cache many times. My Director can't get in at all. Any other ideas on how to resolve this?
Martin Outlaw commented,
I think that the Skills England website lists everything with 12 months as "Minimum duration to gateway", and everything with 13 or more as "typical duration to gateway". I don't see it as anything other than the current (Pre 01/08/25) minimum. I would hope that they will be updated, with an official "typical duration to gateway", that we all can use, regardless of whether it is 8, 12, or 72 months. The new Foundation Apprenticeships, all say "Typical".
I think that the Skills England website lists everything with 12 months as "Minimum duration to gateway", and everything with 13 or more as "typical duration to gateway". I don't see it as anything...
Martin Outlaw commented,
Ruth, Have we been told that the hours were based off the "published typical durations", Annex C states "In setting the minimum requirement for each apprenticeship standard we considered a range of information, including current durations (both the IfATE typical duration and actual time on programme) and the volume of planned and actual hours being reported in the Individual Learner Record by providers. " If it were simply based on the "published typical durations", then there would be no reason for that typical duration not to have been included alongside the hours. There is definitely a lack of clarity. You are bothered that two specific standards have the same duration, but different minimum hours; yet it clearly states throughout the funding rules that there is no link. Specifically in the glossary for "Published typical duration" is says "From 1 August 2025 this duration is no longer linked to the number of off-the-job hours that need to be delivered to be eligible for funding. Providers should refer to Annex C which documents the number of required off-the-job hours for each standard in order to comply with the off-the-job training policy." It would appear that rapid changes in policy have caught a number of organisations off guard, and as a consequence they have failed to provide the appropriate level of information and guidance to the network.
Ruth, Have we been told that the hours were based off the "published typical durations", Annex C states "In setting the minimum requirement for each apprenticeship standard we considered a range o...
Martin Outlaw commented,
If you download the full list of apprenticeship standards from Skills England, there are no Apprenticeship Standards with a typical duration of less than 12 months. So do we await updates to this list, to the funding rules, or an "Official" list of published typical durations. Quite frankly, I do not understand why Annex C did not include a column for published typical duration alongside the OTJT minimum requirement hours.
If you download the full list of apprenticeship standards from Skills England, there are no Apprenticeship Standards with a typical duration of less than 12 months. So do we await updates to this l...
Martin Outlaw commented,
Hi Chris, It is the number of learners at R14 2023-24 / R04 2023-24 Then use this to multiply your number of learners from R04 24/25 HTH
Hi Chris, It is the number of learners at R14 2023-24 / R04 2023-24 Then use this to multiply your number of learners from R04 24/25 HTH
Martin Outlaw commented,
Have you checked that they haven't already started the Apprenticeship with a different provider whilst they were still 16-18?
Have you checked that they haven't already started the Apprenticeship with a different provider whilst they were still 16-18?