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Gill Knight commented,
I have not seen that occur Ruth but do suffer with Employers pausing or stopping the accounts before we even know a learner is going on a BIL or leaving !! And this close to R14 is a nightmare. Hope you get it all sorted.
I have not seen that occur Ruth but do suffer with Employers pausing or stopping the accounts before we even know a learner is going on a BIL or leaving !! And this close to R14 is a nightmare. Hop...
Gill Knight commented,
I posted the query to the DfE and got this response The DfE off the job training calculator and the ILR use slightly different logic when calculating apprenticeship duration. The calculator includes both the start and end dates, which can result in a longer duration being displayed. The ILR, however, excludes the end date when validating the minimum required duration for funding purposes. This means that while the calculator may show 365 days, the ILR sees it as 364 which does not meet the 12 month requirement. I agree Martin that an auditor would need evidence for learning on both day 1 and the last day. Lets hope it is on someone's list to make the logic consistent.
I posted the query to the DfE and got this response The DfE off the job training calculator and the ILR use slightly different logic when calculating apprenticeship duration. The calculator include...
Gill Knight commented,
And consistency is key. You cannot add it one thing and take it away in another !!
And consistency is key. You cannot add it one thing and take it away in another !!
Gill Knight commented,
Hi Courtney My understanding is the details of the EPA the team leaders will sit are on the Skills England web site (https://skillsengland.education.gov.uk/apprenticeships/st0384-v1-4) and your EPAO should be able to give guidance on what they will expect to see.
Hi Courtney My understanding is the details of the EPA the team leaders will sit are on the Skills England web site (https://skillsengland.education.gov.uk/apprenticeships/st0384-v1-4) and your EPA...
Gill Knight commented,
Thanks Richard. I did submit a query yesterday and was told to amend the end dates. I can see that would resolve the issue but wanted to understand why it had occurred and if anyone else was experiencing it too. The calculation on the calculator is D = (C11-C10) + 1 i.e. Learning planned end date - Learning start date + 1 day
Thanks Richard. I did submit a query yesterday and was told to amend the end dates. I can see that would resolve the issue but wanted to understand why it had occurred and if anyone else was experi...
Gill Knight commented,
[image] That is the annoying thing as the calculator suggests these dates give a duration of 365 days
That is the annoying thing as the calculator suggests these dates give a duration of 365 days
Gill Knight commented,
As long as you weren't expecting any monies for this learner in R14 and the pause the employer has put on matches the September BIL then it shouldn't impact you.
As long as you weren't expecting any monies for this learner in R14 and the pause the employer has put on matches the September BIL then it shouldn't impact you.
Gill Knight commented,
R110 is under the Cross Record Rules. It says If an apprenticeship programme is funded (LearningDelivery.FundModel = 36) through a contract for services with an employer (LearnDelFAMType = ACT and LearnDelFAMCode = 1), the learner must have an employment status of 'Employed' (error where if the LearnerEmploymentStatus.EmpStat (applicable on LearnDelFAMDateFrom) <> 10) This rule is not triggered for Restarts (LearningDeliveryFAM.LearnDelFAMType = RES) or Learner has been made redundant (EmploymentStatusMonitoring.ESMType = OET and EmploymentStatusMonitoring.ESMCode = 1) on the latest LearnerEmploymentStatus.DateEmpStatApp I think your EmpStat is wrong as 10 is employed or 11 if not employed. 0 is not a valid option
R110 is under the Cross Record Rules. It says If an apprenticeship programme is funded (LearningDelivery.FundModel = 36) through a contract for services with an employer (LearnDelFAMType = ACT and ...
Gill Knight commented,
Help desk have confirmed R11 Accountability Framework dashboard will be updated either later this week or at the latest early next week. They are also looking at releasing a calendar of dates confirming when this dashboard will be updated to reflect the other dashboards Gill
Help desk have confirmed R11 Accountability Framework dashboard will be updated either later this week or at the latest early next week. They are also looking at releasing a calendar of dates confi...
Gill Knight commented,
https://guidance.submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk/
https://guidance.submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk/