Raanan Firmin commented, 14 August 2025 15:06

Thanks Ruth, this is really helpful

1. Prior funding received?

Thanks Ruth, this is really helpful

Raanan Firmin commented, 14 August 2025 14:42

Thanks Ruth but this wont necessarily help us with some of our cases. We find that someone will be on an apprenticeship with another training provider for say a couple of months then may loose their employment and then come to us for a new placement and start on programme with us but not let us know that they had started the same apprenticeship before. They also declare that they have no prior learning too. We only find out about the shortfall in funding once the first payment comes through. 

1. Prior funding received?

Thanks Ruth but this wont necessarily help us with some of our cases. We find that someone will be on an apprenticeship with another training provider for say a couple of months then may loose thei...

Raanan Firmin commented, 21 October 2024 14:13

Perfect thanks Ben. I thought that should be the case as there would not be any incentive to get the apprentice through quicker than planned. 

1. Funding for early achievers

Perfect thanks Ben. I thought that should be the case as there would not be any incentive to get the apprentice through quicker than planned. 

Raanan Firmin commented, 08 September 2023 12:11

Many thanks both

1. Programme aim min period?

Many thanks both

Raanan Firmin commented, 08 August 2023 15:16

Thanks Ben. I think they enjoy not making things clear!

1. no employer within 30 days

Thanks Ben. I think they enjoy not making things clear!

Raanan Firmin commented, 08 August 2023 14:42

Another question on this, does the apprentice have 30 days + 12 weeks to start in new employment before withdrawal or is it just the 12 weeks from last date of employment to start in employment?

1. no employer within 30 days

Another question on this, does the apprentice have 30 days + 12 weeks to start in new employment before withdrawal or is it just the 12 weeks from last date of employment to start in employment?

Raanan Firmin commented, 24 January 2023 15:47

I too registered but am yet to receive the log in details. Have been contacted today to say my login is still with the EFSA to approve. Hopefully I should hear back in time for my 50th birthday (I'm currently 42). 

1. PDSAT

I too registered but am yet to receive the log in details. Have been contacted today to say my login is still with the EFSA to approve. Hopefully I should hear back in time for my 50th birthday (I'...

Raanan Firmin commented, 24 January 2023 13:44

I have had confirmation from the ESFA that there is an issue known that the clawback amount does not always tie back to the clawbacks detailed in the Apps monthly payment report. They are looking into it. Their response: The report can mark a learner as having 'clawback' in a number of scenarios. This includes cases where on-programme earnings and payments have been clawed back but then repaid (for a later delivery month) as balancing payments, which means the total payments appear unchanged. We are investigating whether we can add more ‘reason codes’ to describe scenarios like these more clearly.  Typically a clawback will show on this report if there is a negative value on your Apps Monthly Payment Report (AMPR), but it will also indicate clawback if there are negative adjustments for one or more previous months which have been offset by a greater positive value for this month, giving a net positive figure on the AMPR. Examples are when the price of the apprenticeship has been lowered or the planned duration of a learning aim has been corrected. Where a clawback is shown but a positive payment is still shown for that month in the AMPR, this issue is shown for advice only and no action is required, unless you were not expecting changes for the apprentice concerned

1. Clawbacks

I have had confirmation from the ESFA that there is an issue known that the clawback amount does not always tie back to the clawbacks detailed in the Apps monthly payment report. They are looking i...

Raanan Firmin commented, 23 January 2023 12:56

Thanks. I've tried that. I compared the Apps Monthly payment report to the clawback amount on the FM36 Summary report but the 2 don't match exactly. 

1. Clawbacks

Thanks. I've tried that. I compared the Apps Monthly payment report to the clawback amount on the FM36 Summary report but the 2 don't match exactly. 

Raanan Firmin commented, 23 January 2023 11:47

Thanks Gill, I have used this but it doesn't give you the amounts just the learners names and ULNs. When I tried to tie this back to the detailed funding report based on the ULNs for the month the totals didn't match up.  

1. Clawbacks

Thanks Gill, I have used this but it doesn't give you the amounts just the learners names and ULNs. When I tried to tie this back to the detailed funding report based on the ULNs for the month the ...