Nicola McCallum
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Nicola McCallum commented,
Thanks Kelly. I have asked for a copy of the contract so hopefully that will come through soon. They are a local authority so I'm not sure if different rules apply. This is also training apprentices. I've tried to find guidance but I haven't found anything yet, some documents say "does not apply to local authorities" but doesn't give a link to what does apply.
Thanks Kelly. I have asked for a copy of the contract so hopefully that will come through soon. They are a local authority so I'm not sure if different rules apply. This is also training apprentice...
Nicola McCallum commented,
I think I'm still confused. A skill scan shows prior knowledge of 6% for one of our new apprentices due to start in September. After a full discussion with him it is evident that his skills lie with plumbing and not gas engineering. There is very little we can RPL in terms of actual training done against training to be done in the apprenticeship, however historically we have reduced by (in this case) funding and duration by 6%. While he will have some basic behaviour experience and skills such as use of PPE other than that all training must be delivered. BPEC the awarding body are willing to look at RPL from plumbing to gas on a case by case basis but have said that 'for example; even though they cover the LCS within DPH-001, the jointing methods for gas may be different as an example, if they were to use boss and hemp on water, this is not permitted on gas etc so would still need to be covered. What we would want to do is deliver all the training in the qualification we are using to meet the Apprenticeship Standard, as it has been specifically designed for this and is needed to meet occupational competency. That being said, I am happy to reduce funding by 3% if that is required to meet the funding rules. I just don't want to make a costly mistake.
I think I'm still confused. A skill scan shows prior knowledge of 6% for one of our new apprentices due to start in September. After a full discussion with him it is evident that his skills lie wit...
Nicola McCallum commented,
Ah OK! So we would reduce funding by 5% and duration by 10%?
Ah OK! So we would reduce funding by 5% and duration by 10%?
Nicola McCallum commented,
We are having the same issue. We need to ensure we deliver all training as it's regulated but this contradicts RPL. I have been advised by our ESFA SEO: If there are regulatory requirements that specifically say all content must be delivered that’s fine – but this must be evidenced. As a result of this we went to BPEC to ask them to confirm this, as they have always told us we cannot RPL anything into the DGE-001 qualification which is designed to meet this standard. They have just come back to me today to say that some training might be accepted as RPL but we have to submit it on an individual basis for them to consider. The most common reason we have is that an apprentice may already have a plumbing qualification and so they have some experience of soldering and working on site. But the gas units of the qualfication MUST be delivered in full to meet legal requirements. There really aren't any overlapping skills other than a bit of pipe bending and soldering, as I'm sure you know gas is very different to plumbing, and the training we do even on the pipework is much more advanced than the L2 NVQ in plumbing; different types of pipe are used in gas etc. We use the OneFile RPL skill scan and then discuss the outcome of that with the learner. Often the skills they are referring to are really their plumbing skills, not the gas KSB's they will be aquiring on the apprenticeship. That being said, we use the skill scan % to reduce funding and duration. Often this is no more than around 3 weeks (18 hours of training). I have noticed that the fuding rules have now changed and 50% of the % reduction should be applied so I'm about to raise a question on here to confirm that is the case. This would mean the 18 hours reduction would actually only be 9 hours.
We are having the same issue. We need to ensure we deliver all training as it's regulated but this contradicts RPL. I have been advised by our ESFA SEO: If there are regulatory requirements that sp...