Simon France
Learner Systems Manager for Oldham Council's Lifelong Learning Service. https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonkfrance/
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Simon France commented,
I'm reluctant to default the source data because we'd then not know the difference between defaults and actual learner responses. However, I can amend the ILR without affecting the source just for the purpose of getting it valid for the return. It's an extra step in my ILR processing but hey-ho.
I'm reluctant to default the source data because we'd then not know the difference between defaults and actual learner responses. However, I can amend the ILR without affecting the source just for...
Simon France commented,
Right, I guess that answers that.... "We cannot change the validation on Tailored learning to introduce a time delay as this would be a costly development change. Although tailored learning requires a purpose code to be recorded at the beginning of learning, these codes can be updated later if the purpose changes. The TLout code should be added when the learner has completed or withdrawn from the planned learning activities, as this should be known when closing the aim."
Right, I guess that answers that...."We cannot change the validation on Tailored learning to introduce a time delay as this would be a costly development change. Although tailored learning requires...
Simon France commented,
The GMCA have told us that they have raised it as an issue with the ESFA and hopefully it will be resolved during the year. In the meantime they have instructed us to add two DAM codes to all deliveries that are erroring with this issue. Therefore, Ceri Fishlock, I think that means they aren't going to rush and you'll need to add the DAM or LDM code accordingly.
The GMCA have told us that they have raised it as an issue with the ESFA and hopefully it will be resolved during the year. In the meantime they have instructed us to add two DAM codes to all deli...
Simon France commented,
Yep, I'm adding DAM codes in to clear the error but we have the thick end of 1,000 to do. I don't think the ESFA appreciate that we providers need error-free ILRs so we can get our financial position.
Yep, I'm adding DAM codes in to clear the error but we have the thick end of 1,000 to do. I don't think the ESFA appreciate that we providers need error-free ILRs so we can get our financial posit...
Simon France commented,
We're still affected by this issue. Along with the Tailored Learning error 35% of our deliveries are erroring.
We're still affected by this issue. Along with the Tailored Learning error 35% of our deliveries are erroring.
Simon France commented,
I could do but the danger of defaults is that it can lead to complacency. It's difficult to tell the actuals from the defaults whereas I know who to chase up when it's blank. Don't be too impressed though, we're not 100% complete at the start. Learners fill in their objectives at the start when they do their ILP. It then has to be inputted so it is usually a week or so after the start when the data is in the system. Same for the outcomes, if I'm honest. I'd rather there was a 30-day grace period for both to give us chance to get the stuff back from the community venues and inputted. My R04 had nearly 300 missing Purposes and 100 missing Outcomes which meant the ILR had loads of invalid learners. Yes, we recognise there is some work to do in some areas to minimise the delay between the enrolment starting/stopping and the Purpose/Outcome going on but in many cases it just isn't possible. Plus there were loads that haven't actually started yet. I think it would be useful to have warnings for those that start in the future, Purpose to error 30 days after the start date and Outcome to error 30 days after the end date.
I could do but the danger of defaults is that it can lead to complacency. It's difficult to tell the actuals from the defaults whereas I know who to chase up when it's blank. Don't be too impresse...
Simon France commented,
We can but we also offer Adult Skills and we want future enrolments to be in it so we can account for the future earnings. PLus we'd prefer them to be in so the GMCA had an idea of all the future starts we had.
We can but we also offer Adult Skills and we want future enrolments to be in it so we can account for the future earnings. PLus we'd prefer them to be in so the GMCA had an idea of all the future s...
Simon France commented,
I remember the sample file being incorrect at the start of the year.
I remember the sample file being incorrect at the start of the year.
Simon France commented,
We're having the same problem. One class on FM10 which crosses over the academic year is now throwing LSDPostcode_01. The same learners are doing FM11 aims starting after 01/08/2024 which are not triggering errors.
We're having the same problem. One class on FM10 which crosses over the academic year is now throwing LSDPostcode_01. The same learners are doing FM11 aims starting after 01/08/2024 which are not...