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Becky O'Brien commented,

If "Top up payment" means "price above the funding band max" then yes, in 2019 the ILR price should include that and should continue to include that for this apprentice until they complete. The only exceptions to more recent rules applying to apprentices who started in earlier years is where the more recent rules specify that certain clauses apply to all learners continuing into the next year (e.g. frequency of evidence of learning activity or programme reviews) If you still do decide that the price does need to be corrected, then you would enter the corrected prices as TNP 1 and TNP2, but they must have a date of 01/08/2023. Adding changed TNPs with dates in closed funding years does not work, and it makes sense that it wouldn't.  I'm also fairly sure the PMR is for co-investment, not for the employer paying over the FBM. See Provider Support extract below: Payment record (PMR): this is used to record co-investment contributions from the employer to the training provider or (for standards only) for the end point assessment organisation. Co-investment contributions reimbursed to the employer are also recorded as payment records.   And also an extract from the 19/20 rules, where only co-investment is mentioned with regards to the ILR; payments above the FBM must be "evidenced" for audit, but no mention of the ILR. P311.5 Additional information where an apprenticeship or part of an apprenticeship is funded through government-employer co-investment. In these circumstances you must:   P311.5.1  evidence you have collected the required employer co-investment contribution; and P311.5.2 ensure employer co-investment payments match information on the ILR. P311.6 Evidence you have collected payments from the employer where they are paying for apprenticeship training above the funding band maximum.  

  1. Correcting Apprenticeship Financial Record in ILR

If "Top up payment" means "price above the funding band max" then yes, in 2019 the ILR price should include that and should continue to include that for this apprentice until they complete. The onl...

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Becky O'Brien commented,

Do the dates for the 12 include 29/02/2024, but the others don't? The leap day could be pushing the rounding from rounding down to 418 to rounding up to 423.

  1. FRM37 Issues

Do the dates for the 12 include 29/02/2024, but the others don't? The leap day could be pushing the rounding from rounding down to 418 to rounding up to 423.

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Becky O'Brien commented,

Caroline Hudson  That is very good to hear, and corresponds with what we see in the report. Thank you so much for sharing.

  1. Co-investment report - % collected

Caroline Hudson  That is very good to hear, and corresponds with what we see in the report. Thank you so much for sharing.

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Becky O'Brien commented,

Ruth Canham-James Connor Goulding Steve Hewitt I've just received a reply from the Specialist support team at the App service helpdesk and they have said the opposite of what your helpdesk person did regarding the need to return the SEM: The Specialist Support team have been in touch today to let us know:   For the 16-21 year old cohort, you no longer need to record the SEM code. We are currently in the process of updating the Technical Funding Guide so that this aligns with the recent policy change. An updated Tech funding guide would be nice given the "current" one is "from 2020" and last updated in May 2021!

  1. New funding from April 1st 2024

Ruth Canham-James Connor Goulding Steve Hewitt I've just received a reply from the Specialist support team at the App service helpdesk and they have said the opposite of what your helpdesk person d...

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Becky O'Brien commented,

Connor Goulding Not that late! I've still not had an answer from the ESFA, other than it being passed to their policy team so you're doing better than them! That is very helpful, thank you.

  1. New funding from April 1st 2024

Connor Goulding Not that late! I've still not had an answer from the ESFA, other than it being passed to their policy team so you're doing better than them! That is very helpful, thank you.

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Becky O'Brien commented,

Ruth Canham-James Wow...  to be that muddled over what the rules clearly state! The SEM flag thing makes no sense. Reason Required To establish employer eligibility for apprenticeship funding We've never returned it unless the employer and apprentice combination was eligible to have co-investment waived.  Why would it be returned in circumstances where it does precisely nothing to establish employer eligibility for funding?  Sorry - I know you've said this, but just repeating it to show how nonsensical it is. I'll try asking them myself: see if I get a different answer.    

  1. New funding from April 1st 2024

Ruth Canham-James Wow...  to be that muddled over what the rules clearly state! The SEM flag thing makes no sense. Reason Required To establish employer eligibility for apprenticeship funding We'...