Becky O'Brien
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Becky O'Brien commented,
@... This was my interpretation too. Mentioning PED got me a little unsure, as in my mind I link that to the ILR PED, when of course it applies to both. Thank you so much.
@... This was my interpretation too. Mentioning PED got me a little unsure, as in my mind I link that to the ILR PED, when of course it applies to both. Thank you so much.
Becky O'Brien commented,
@... I have also been wondering just how far over the PED learners would need to be for this to kick in. Rules don't give any guidance, so I'd assume even a day? EDIT - actually a more important question is around WHICH date is the key one. Is it practical period or the entire apprenticeship? The wording is this: 54 We have clarified that the apprenticeship agreement must cover the actual duration of the apprenticeship (e.g. if the apprenticeship is extended, the apprenticeship agreement must also be extended).
@... I have also been wondering just how far over the PED learners would need to be for this to kick in. Rules don't give any guidance, so I'd assume even a day? EDIT - actually a more important qu...
Becky O'Brien commented,
Martin West Thank you. I'm currently at the position of them definitely needing to work toward level 2 as a minimum. Would you say they also need to take the assessments?
Martin West Thank you. I'm currently at the position of them definitely needing to work toward level 2 as a minimum. Would you say they also need to take the assessments?
Becky O'Brien commented,
Steve Hewitt Yes, but would they need to attempt level 2? Martin seems to think they would, which was my opinion previously, but I'm looking for chapter & verse where it's stated it's required & not finding it, even though it FEELS right. *Seeking clarification on Martin's meaning. He didn't state that. I personally think that they must at least "work toward". I've previously insisted on an attempt at level 2 assessments, but am not sure now. What do you think?
Steve Hewitt Yes, but would they need to attempt level 2? Martin seems to think they would, which was my opinion previously, but I'm looking for chapter & verse where it's stated it's required & no...
Becky O'Brien commented,
Martin West When you say "undertake", do you mean learning, or the full attempt? And which rule/rules are you applying in order to come to that conclusion?
Martin West When you say "undertake", do you mean learning, or the full attempt? And which rule/rules are you applying in order to come to that conclusion?
Becky O'Brien commented,
Clair Ayling I'll pretend to be Steve H... it was the LSECT Data Conference. I wasn't there, but my manager was.
Clair Ayling I'll pretend to be Steve H... it was the LSECT Data Conference. I wasn't there, but my manager was.
Becky O'Brien commented,
Steve Hewitt Yes, I'd heard that and should have mentioned in my original post that I don't have a 21-22 version either (PDSAT SQL issues), just 20-21, & I've no idea how similar those are. Anyone got a 21-22 version they'd be kind enough to share?
Steve Hewitt Yes, I'd heard that and should have mentioned in my original post that I don't have a 21-22 version either (PDSAT SQL issues), just 20-21, & I've no idea how similar those are. Anyone...
Becky O'Brien commented,
Thanks Ben. My thoughts had been going your way anyway (despite what my post might indicate), and that leaving them at 1-8 is enough. I am however, checking with ESFA.
Thanks Ben. My thoughts had been going your way anyway (despite what my post might indicate), and that leaving them at 1-8 is enough. I am however, checking with ESFA.
Becky O'Brien commented,
Yes, it has to use 20% so it works for those doing less than 30 hours.
Yes, it has to use 20% so it works for those doing less than 30 hours.
Becky O'Brien commented,
Thank you, Philip. I used the number of on programme payments in the Apps Payment report to check and I didn't always get the right result with that - in fact only about a third of the time. However, after some experimentation I came up with the following, which is very similar. I have found this matches the ESFA number in 100% of the cases on the Apps Payment report. If you want to check that please do. Double-checking is always good. =DATEDIF(EOMONTH({start_date}, 0)+1, {End_date}+1, "m")+1 EOMONTH finds the last date of the month. I could not have done this without your help. I had got somewhat stuck with datedif and adding on ones, but hadn't tried adding one to both dates & the result.
Thank you, Philip. I used the number of on programme payments in the Apps Payment report to check and I didn't always get the right result with that - in fact only about a third of the time. Howeve...