Replies
No one has replied to this post.
Hi Ruth,
We have a few learners in a similar situation who have been made redundant and have a small gap in their employment.
We code them as redundant for the time period, and the same as you they show up on our PDSAT report 23A-205 which we annotate to explain, although I do currently have a query with the PDSAT helpdesk about this report, as we have coded our learners as redundant, but the redundancy coding isn't pulling through to the report, it was a few weeks ago I raised this and haven't heard back yet.
The other issue I currently have with learners in this situation, is we are getting data mismatches for them, as the DAS system is getting confused with the redundancy period as there isn't an application to cover that period. They have told me it is correct that in the above example employer A would stop the DAS in November as they wouldn't be expected to cover November, and then Employer B would cover December, but in this example the issue is on DAS no-one is covering November which for us is causing the data mismatches. I have several tickets in with the helpdesk about this, and have tried some fixes they have suggested which hasn't worked, I don't know if you are also having the same issue with data mismatches?
Thanks
Lisa
Thanks @.... If it was redundancy yes, a Nov stop would make sense as ESFA will cover the gap in terms of payments. Our wasn't redundancy, just an allowable <30 day gap that happened to cross a month end.
With the redundancy, are you recording the redundancy on the unemployed employment status record? The rules aren't clear on whether you put the OET code on the old employment history record from which they were made redundant, or the new unemployed record, but it's the latter.
Ruth Canham-James
Apprenticeship Employer Gaps and Employment Status
Created
We've been reporting apprentices who had a small gap between employers like this in the employment history, to reflect reality;
Employer A - 02/05/2022 to 11/11/2022
Unemployed - 14/11/2022 to 04/12/2022
Employer B - 05/12/2022 onwards
That appears in DSAT report 23A-205. I know the DSAT report is not strictly errors, and we could annotate it, but do other providers just not leave a gap? Guidance here suggests that Employer A in the case above must only stop their DAS in December. That would suggest ESFA expect Employer A to pay for November, even though the apprentice didn't complete November with Employer A. Does it also follow that we should just lie in the employment history about the end date with employer 1, and say it was 04/12/2022?
Happy just to annotate the DSAT, but unclear if we're messing up the funding leaving this gap.