Donna Pritchard

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We have an apprentice that moved to a new employer a while back.  We have been trying to arrange the new compliance documents and funding, but the employer has not yet set up a DAS cohort for receiving a levy transfer or for co-investment.  We now find that the apprentice has now left that employer.  Now that we have lost out on that funding due to the employer not setting up the DAS cohort at the time, can we invoice for the full amount or must it still only be 5%?

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Martin West

You should not have recorded as a start in the ILR or started training until the DAS account had been set up correctly for the learner, so I do not see how you can charge the employer in these circumstances.

HTH

Donna Pritchard

Hi Martin

We do not record learners in the ILR or start training without DAS set up correctly.  The learner was originally with another employer who had set up DAS and we were receiving funding ok.  The issue is that the learner transferred to another employer who did not set up DAS and now the learner has left that employer as well.

I'd like to know if we are able to invoice the 2nd employer for full amount (for the time they were with them) or must it just be the 5% of the amount for the time they were with them?

Martin West

It is not common practice to invoice employers in these circumstances.

Ruth Canham-James

Whilst not common, I think it's allowable. We have something in our contract that says we can invoice them for any funds we lose as a result of their actions/inactions. We would potentially invoice the whole lot, since we didn't have any of it from ESFA/their DAS account. Invoicing 5% would not likely be worth it. If you didn't have any DAS/ESFA money, then you can consider that period full cost, in which case it's up to you what you charge. Sometimes, it depends how much you value the relationship with that employer.

Martin West

As Ruth has said but only if you  have something in our contract with the employer.