Tom Redman

Term-Time Contracts - OTJ Hours

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Hi all, 

I am trying to work out OTJ hours for term-time only contracts. Would anyone be able to assist with helping me work this out on the basis of the below please?

14 month duration, full-time (30+ hours), 39 weeks contract. 

If you could explain the working to me too, that would be fantastic? I'm really struggling to work out how this works, including how to add in statutory leave too. 

Kind regards, 

Tom

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Steve Hewitt

Ah, now, the thing we've got to be careful about is making sure that they're *definitely* full time because with a TTO learner we average out the hours they do over 39 weeks over 46.4 (ie total minus stat), so if their contract is less than 36 hours per week, they're actually part time and we have to extend duration.

Here's my (100% UNOFFICIAL) spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_Kbfvp9CmKjsiaisE_W9W9FlNATfYni3/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=116891575082143579414&rtpof=true&sd=true

Also, it does weeks rather than months, but let's assume they're on 37.5 per week for 39 weeks over 60 weeks duration, the calc of OTJ would be exactly the same as someone who wasn't TTO, you'd just have to deliver it in fewer weeks.

 

Ruth Canham-James

In my experience, whenever we calculate average weekly hours for a term time only apprentice, they almost always come out as 30+ hours anyway. So, they're still technically full time, and they have to do more than 20% OTJ in the weeks when they're actually working. But like Steve says, if the calculation makes them part time, it's an extended duration.

Tom Redman

Hi both, 

Thank you for the advice. Do I need to consider statutory leave for term-time only apprentices?

Kind regards,

Tom