Christine Gregory

FL2 Equivalent

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Hi, we have a learner who has a L2 award in engineering - is this equivalent to a GCSE grade 4/C above?  If so, he has 4 other GCSEs at grade C so would that mean he has a FL2?

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Ruth Canham-James

L2 Awards are rarely full in themselves in my experience. If you know the exact aim, check in the LARS/FALA to see if it has Level 2 Legal Entitlements. If it did at the time they studied it, it would be a full level 2.

When working out fullness for prior attainment, the only quals you can ever combine to establish that, are GCSE or A Levels. Four GCSE grades 9-4/A*-C plus a Level 2 Award might be bigger than just five GCSEs grades 9-4/A*-C, but that still wouldn't count as full level 2, whilst five GCSEs would be full. It's odd.

Steve Hewitt

Ah, yes, nothing apart from GCSEs counts as part of FL2 (in the old days, GCSEs used to say "20%" on LARS, but everything else was either 100% or nothing) and I'd be super surprised if an Award on its own was FL2.

So I'm saying this learner does not have FL2...

Christine Gregory

Following on from this, if a 21 year old doesn't have a FL2, but has a L3 (not FL3) qual would they be AEB funded for a L2 qual?

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Ruth Canham-James

No. Once someone has achieved a full level 2 or above, they can't be fully funded on the basis that it's their first full level 2, even if they technically never did anything at level 2. It's actually isn't explicit in the current rules though! There are ILR validation rules that show it's true though:

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For starts after 31 July 2017, full funding cannot be claimed for learning aims that are level 2 or below if the learner is aged 19 to 23 at the start of the aim, has a prior attainment of level 2 or above, and is not unemployed as defined in the funding rules

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