Apprentice who is dismissed

Dismissal works the same as any other reason for leaving a job, so, yes, you get the 30 days/12 weeks.

It does not mean If an apprentice is dismissed from his job, he can be out of placement for 30 days it only applies where new employment has commenced within 30 days and the DAS account has been set up with the new employer to start within 30 days.

HTH

Hi Martin, thanks for your comments.

Just to re-iterate, if a learner is dismissed, this is not a change of circumstance 225.1 so we should apply the rules for BiL 228.3 where it states you the provider should not record a BiL if they are dismissed.  

if a learner is dismissed this is include in both 225.1 and 228.3.

225.1. When employment or an apprenticeship agreement has ended (resignation, dismissal or any other action by the apprentice or the employer that results in the apprenticeship agreement ending,

228.3. When employment or an apprenticeship agreement has ended (redundancy, resignation, dismissal or any other action by the apprentice or the employer that results in the apprenticeship agreement ending). Where an apprentice has been made redundant please refer to the redundancy section in the rules (see paragraphs 231 to 235). In circumstances where an apprentice changes employer and there is a break in employment of more than 30 days and up to 12 weeks, please see paragraph 225.1.

228.3 does not states you the provider should not record a BiL if they are dismissed.

Have I missed something here?

I was looking at 228 the provider must not record a BiL, then lists 3 points including 228.3, hence the slight confusion