Jade Wilson

Apprentice returning after withdrawal

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Hi all. We have an apprentice who withdrew from an apprenticeship last year, but they now wish to return. However, the version of the standard changed in March. Are we able to restart this apprentice on the old version (they were 3/4 of the way through), or do they have to join the new version? If the latter, can they enrol for the remaining planned time or does it have to be for at least 12 months due to the different version? Thank you in advance.

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Kate Nicholson

Hi Jade

I'm interested as to how you dealt with this one please as I have exactly the same issue and the helpdesk are completely contradicting the funding guidance! 

I can't find in the funding guidance that a learner cannot return on the original standard although the helpdesk are telling me they have to be on the latest one, I'm wondering if this is because the Apprenticeship Service automatically puts a learner onto the latest version?!

Further to this, the helpdesk are also telling me that the learner will have to be on for the minimum duration rather than it being treated like a restart and the combined durations equaling 365 days

Clear as mud!

Ruth Canham-James

We ended up discussing similar on this thread. I maintain that the advice from the service desk is incorrect, and that you don't have to do a full extra year when changing version, and the rules confirm that:

277. The provider must make sure that the combined duration of the apprentice’s time on the legacy version and the new version meets the apprenticeship minimum duration requirements.

There is no reason to believe that this rule no longer applies if there also happens to have been a withdrawal in between.

About being allowed back on the original version, I honestly don't know. It's not recorded in the ILR, and the version we record on the DAS doesn't appear to functionally do anything or get validated against anything. It specifically says returns after breaks can, but doesn't mention returns after withdrawals. Since many withdrawals happen because of "admin" rather than a real desire to withdraw, it would be weird not to allow it. If the EPAO approves it as ok, who would even check?