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It's nearly always one or the other. ECF/MCF FAM codes are only for students who are exempt, or have met the CoF with something other than a GCSE, so should be blank if they have a GCSE grade of 4 or above. It does error in the ILR if you have a GCSE grade and use MCF FAM 2, 3 or 4 (MathGrade_04), maybe PICS is stripping it out?
What in the ILR spec do think is telling you to enter NONE for a GCSE grade 4 or above? You just always enter the highest GCSE maths grade (unless you have a very rare situation where a student did have an overseas or UK equivalent, or was sitting their GCSE elsewhere, but also had a GCSE that was 3 or below).
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Rule Name |
Field Values | Error Message |
| EngGrade_04 | EngGrade=5| | GCSE English qualification grade must be 'NONE' |
| MathGrade_04 | MathGrade=5| | GCSE maths qualification grade must be 'NONE' |
The learner with both 5s errors out when you add in the MCF and ECF code 3 (3: Learner has met the GCSE maths condition of funding as they hold an approved equivalent UK qualification)
States the grade must set as "None"
Chris Roberts Ah! You always have to be careful with those ILR error descriptions. They say things like "If A is 1 then B must be 2". You can't assume that A=1 is correct, and change B to 2. B might be correctly not 2, and it's A that shouldn't be 1.
It seems a common misconception that ECF/MCF 3 is to be used for students with a 4 or above GCSE. It's specifically for a UK Equivalent (like an iGCSE), not an actual GCSE. This was a similar post earlier this week.
Chris Roberts
COF/GCSE Exemptions Query
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HI all
Can anyone advise if we still have to use the ECF and MCF Fam codes if a learner has a GCSE 4 or above in maths and or English?
In PICS the option is there to use it but looking at our maths and English report from the ESFA the learners are being recorded correctly from the grade we input into the learner section.
ILR spec would suggest we need to set them to NONE and then use ECF/MCF for a grade 4 or above.
Nothing is erroring out in the claim.
Thanks
Chris