Claire Baranowski

FRM06

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Hi,

I've got an issue with a learner showing on an FRM report and really need ILR support. Can anyone help with the following scenario:

I’ve checked the data and realised it is incorrect. The aims shouldn’t be overlapping but I’m not sure how to correct the ILR out of contract year. 

Aim 60350611- Opened 5/9/23 and achieved 18/1/24.

Aim: 603505556 – Opened 5/9/23 – withdrawn 6/9/24.

Ideally the aim 6003505556 should have started 19/1/24 after the entry level component aim. As it's the last contract year, can anyone support with rectifying the ILR?

Many thanks in advance.

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Chris Roberts

I don't think you can correct it now R14 has gone I'm afraid. 

Correcting data errors after hard close

If data is found to be incorrect after the hard close (R14) of the previous year and the data is incorrect due to an administrative error, then the data should be corrected in the ILR data for the current year and continue to be returned for the duration of the current ILR year. The previous year’s ILR file cannot not be amended.

Ruth Canham-James

I'm not sure I fully understand this. FRM06 is aims you reported as Continuing in 23/24 but just don't exist in 24/25. Which one did you report in 23/24 that you're not reporting in 24/25? If the L1 maths withdrawal was in Sep 24, surely it's being reported in 24/25 to report that withdrawal?

It is fixable out of year 😊 If the L1 maths didn't actually start until Jan 24, record the original enrolment in 24/25 as withdrawn and an Actual End Date the same as the Start Date (make sure it stays in the ILR, our software auto excludes aims with same start end end unless you actively choose to include them). That closes that record with no negative stat. If it was AEB/ASF or App funded, you'll get some clawback and it will appear as an FRM27 error instead, but it will be correct as you shouldn't have had funding Sep 23-Dec 23. I'd then create a new record that started in Jan 24, but you won't get any of the funding due for the months in 23/24. So, you lose funding but don't get it back, but the data will be correct. We've had similar before, and we just accepted losing the funding since it was our own fault. An auditor would make you do it anyway if it was found.

Claire Baranowski

Thanks so much.

Claire Baranowski

Hi,

I hope it's ok to open this thread again. On closer inspection the FRM06 error is linked to the level 1 functional skills maths aim (60350556).

The aim was accidentally left open on the Level 2 apprenticeship for R14, so I made sure the aim was open for this apprenticeship in the 24-25 ILR withdrawn in September 24.

For R07 - I exported the same learner's level 3 apprenticeship. I opened the maths aim for October. The FRM06 error still exists.

Please can you help? 

Ruth Canham-James

It can depend on what system you're using, but you need to make sure you are still reporting the 60350556 enrolment that was in your 23/24 R14, in your 24/25 ILR as well. It must have the same start date, planned end date and funding stream. It sounds like there still isn't a matching record in your 24/25 data.

Once you've made sure that's there, you should withdraw it with actual end date 05/09/2023, same as the start date. Our software (ProSolution) will auto exclude that from our ILR unless we tick a box called "attended one day", so you might be finding something similar. You can check the raw xml file to see if it's there. That should then appear as an FRM27 error, which does reflect reality.

You'd then have another enrolment for aim 60350556 in 24/25, with a correct start date of 19/01/2024. You won't get any of the monthly payments that were due Jan 24 to Jul 24, but that's just how it goes.