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Determining "Full Level 3" prior attainment is an absurdly difficult task. If it's not any of the specific, listed quals (A Levels, QCF Diplomas (how do you know if it's QCF? I've never worked that out), NVQs, Access), it all comes down to whether the aim had legal entitlements at the time they studied it, and whether it was 300+ GLH. If it was below 300 GLH and/or didn't have legal entitlements, it's not full.
"Technical qualifications (part of T levels)" is listed under non-full Level 3. The "Tech Levels" in the Full Level 3 list are not the same as T Levels, but you'd be forgiven for assuming they were.
The system is completely unfair. A student can have an Extended Diploma that didn't have legal entitlements, and that isn't considered full for prior attainment, but another student who did a L3 Certificate that did have legal entitlements and was 300+ GLH, is considered to have a full level 3. The second student did a qual the fraction of the size of the first one, but can't be funded under FFL3, when the first one can. Then there's T Levels which are very large Level 3s, but don't count as full.
Ruth Canham-James, yes it is a bit of a minefield at times. This is just one T level, level 3 which apparently has a GLH of 1090 (core is 520 on it's own without the specialism), which is why I was questioning as to how this stood up as a level 3 qualification, in this case, as it has supposedly been completed in under a year.
However, I feel there is more digging to be done, in this case, as we have spoken with the lad concerned, and after further checking the AO's certification page, it appears he has only done half of the qualification, so not sure why this has been claimed as full on the PLR? 🤔
Did they close the ZPROG as complete? Our students do finish the Technical qual/core aim in year 1 (the one with the aim code starting with a 6), as that's only part of the whole T Level. I think the GLH recorded on those technical aims is really misleading, as that's for the whole Standard, but isn't a true reflection of what is required to pass that component.
I found something interesting when looking at the UCAS advice for T Levels:
To support students that partially achieve their T Level, UCAS tariff points are also available for both elements of the technical qualification where:
- students have passed the core component and completed the industry placement
- students have passed the occupational specialism component and completed the industry placement
As the relative weighting of the core and occupational specialism for each T Level varies, the UCAS points for partial achievement will also vary across T Levels. Tariff allocations for partial achievement of each T Level are available on the UCAS tariff calculator.
If you pick the top grades for each combo, the Occupational Specialism scores a lot more UCAS points that the Core Aim:
Level 3 Standards don't count as full either (we've had that confirmed before), and some of those are huge!
Tracey Richardson
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Hi All,
Just sorting out the ILR for a new start who has Full level 2 with the number of high GCSE results, but I notice on his achievements on his PLR he also has a T level 3 BSE for construction on there, which he hasn't cited as his highest achievement on his enrolment strangely.
My question is, is how does this sit in relation to Prior achievement; will this sit as a proper Level 3 as I know that in certain quals T levels are more an introduction into certain trades and used as full time provision so don't hold as much clout as normal level 2/3's. However, when I tried to Google this, on the Govt. lists for the different levels, T level is listed under Level 3, but doesn't appear under the Level 2 or even Level 1 lists?
It doesn't seem to feel right as, according to the PLR, this has been completed in under a year, so as it's a level 3 course, I'm not sure if it really has the same 'weight' as a normal Level 3 would normally have? (hope this makes sense)