Ruth Canham-James

Last Date for New Starts

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Why do all the learning aims in LARS and "Find a Learning Aim" this year, have a Last Date for New Starts (LDNS) for 16-19 funding set as 31 July 2021? That was always the case with AEB until about Easter, but 16-19 dates were usually a year or two in the future (unless they really were expiring). We always took the view that, if the aim was still funded in next year for 16-19, it was likely to be for AEB too. 

How are we now supposed to know which aims are going to be funded in next year? We're starting to plan now, and the curriculum teams keep asking me, and I just have to say that I don't know. I thought the curriculum teams might know, but when they speak to Awarding Organisations, they seem to have no clue about funding, and are just interested in last Registration or Certification dates, which are usually much later. 

On top of that, City and Guilds are swearing they know nothing about the fact that their level 2 Beauty Therapy Diploma (50090768) had a LDNS of 31 Dec 2020, and insist that it's still fine to run for starts in January 2021. Well yes technically, but not if we want any funding. 

Who are we supposed to contact about this? The Service Desk just parrot the data in the LARS and can't help. Who decides when quals expire for funding? Who should challenge this if we think it's wrong? Surely that's the Awarding Organisation's job, not one provider?

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Martin West

This qualification has a Funding Approval End Date of 31/12/2020, I find it better to check the following page to check if currently funded:

https://www.qualifications.education.gov.uk/Search?Num=50090768&Status=All

Ruth Canham-James

Hi Martin. That's the same data though surely? Funding Approval End Date essentially is Last Date for New Starts? LDNS varies per funding stream for that reason. There is no LDNS for that aim under "Other", as you can still do it, just not AEB funded.

As it happens, CG did finally agree there was an issue, and are going to get the LDNS extended on that one.

That is a useful alternative search tool though, thank you.

Chris Rees

Hi Ruth,

We are also getting concerned about the LDNS for 16-19. We are trying to replace a small number of courses that the boards have informed us will no longer be funded, but as it stands at the moment we have no way of knowing what we can replace them with.

With regards to our existing courses, we are working on the assumption that we are fairly safe for our A Levels, but for some of the qualifications with a smaller 16-19 population nationally it becomes somewhat of a gamble. We have advertised them in the prospectus for months so we could have disappointed students and staff frantically trying to find new courses if it turns out they are not funded!

We've also had the same experience with awarding bodies in that they either don't know the answer or don't understand the question.