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They did actively change this (and add P45.2), but I guess they just haven't updated the DSATs.
I agree, we'd just annotate and point at this rule if questioned.
This was one of the most horribly punitive (to the student) and unfair rules ESFA had, I'm so glad they saw sense and changed it.
Two things I think:
1. PDSAT (or, at least, the wording of the report) hasn't been updated to deal with the new rule (this kind of happens most years when new stuff is introduced)
2. I think the last bit is key, because it can't see the initial enrolment in this year's ILR, it can't add it up.
But yes, you are right that this is kosher per the 20/21 Rules, so an annotation would be exactly how I'd deal with it. Remember PDSAT is "Are you sure?" reports, not "this is wrong"!
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Hello,
We have had an apprentice restart their framework from withdrawal - they were on funding model 36 for original (and latest) enrolment, withdrew in 19/20, and have just restarted in 20/21.
We have adjusted the duration to account of the prior training, and it is therefore less than 12 months. My opinion is that this is compliant with funding rules (para 45.2).
However, this learner is flagging in PDSATS with the message below:
Funding cannot be claimed for learners enrolled on apprenticeship frameworks if the planned duration is less than one year. The only exception is where there are elements of an apprenticeship framework that commenced prior to 1 May 2017 that are not being delivered, either in part or whole, in which case the planned duration must be at least six months. In addition, apprenticeship completions (FM36) and achievements (FM35) cannot be claimed in the ILR if the apprentice has been in learning for less than one year (or six months if the exception applies). This applies both to new starts and to restarts, taking into account time previously spent on the programme.
I think this is contradictory, and we'd be fine to just annotate our PDSAT accordingly - is that what others think too?
Thank you