PDSAT Guidance 20/21

Hi Caroline

I haven't seen anything for 20/21 in terms of guidance for PDSAT reports, however here's my take on the reports you mention, bearing in mind that PDSAT is a sense checker, rather than an error checker, a kind of 'you said this, is that what you mean'

21A-216 - Planned hours.  The key columns here are the planned OTJ hours and actual OTJ hours.  I do a quick scan down to ensure that the actual are no less than the planned (typos are easy to do).  I'm guessing that this report (which is a new one) is one the auditors will look at and sample to ensure the OTJ hrs you say have been completed have actually been completed.

21B-006 - Learners enrolled concurrently on multiple English and/or maths learning aims - I have half a dozen learners on this report and they are learners who withdrew from the legacy FS and enrolled on reform.  Because of their prior learning, I have detailed on the ILR the amount of learning left to claim, ensuring that there is no issue, as the two qualifications are the same level and the same £ value.

Does that make sense?

Sue

Did you see the notes at the top of the report when you select the + at the top left of the report?

Ooh, I hadn't noticed it didn't exist!

We've had several discussions about 21A-216, mainly here:

https://esfahelp.education.gov.uk/hc/en-gb/community/posts/360010623180-PDSAT-21A-216

Where I think we've cracked what it's doing...

Haven't heard much about 21B-006, looks pretty self-explanatory? If you've got a learner on two English or Maths aims at the same time, you probably shouldn't have...

continuing the discussion about PDSAT Report 21B-006, this seems to be a new report as it is not mentioned in the 19/20 PDSAT guidance that is the only one apparently available at this time.  

Our English and Maths courses are made from collections of individual units rather than full qualifications due to the nature of our learners. We have been running courses like this for some years (C&G offers the chance to do this, registering  through a 'Generic English Awards' route and individually claiming units as needed).  We have never had a problem with funding for these before but now we have a lot of learners who appear on the report, suggesting that we shouldn't do this. There may be 2 units with the same start and end date on the ILR for example (so apparently 'concurrent'). The teachers cover aspects of 2 different units within the same class, so clearly defined start and end dates wouldn't reflect the truth.

The guidance is: Learners must not be enrolled on multiple English learning aims and/or maths learning aims at the same time. Learners can progress from one level to another but must not be enrolled on different levels concurrently.

How would you resolve concurrent FS aims started in the previous year or even earlier - would you withdraw them to start date and expect to have the funding recovered via FRM 27? It would be too late to remove the aim or to change the FM to 99 surely?

Thanks