Apprenticeship Units Rule Violations

Looks like the problem is that ZPROG001 does not have Growth Skills Short Courses as a validity type...

https://submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk/find-a-learning-aim/LearningAimDetails/Funding/ZPROG001?academicYear=2627

So, you're not doing anything wrong, it's just the set up isn't right at their end. At least 156 is just a warning, but doesn't help when 160 is an error...

Hopefully, this is part of the FALA update tomorrow...

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/data-collection-maintenance-schedule-for-2014-to-2015/data-collections-maintenance-schedule-for-2026-to-2027#r01-collection

Thanks for your help with this Steve, makes total sense the errors I was getting, although not great they haven't updated it, but hopefully it will be in the update tomorrow and all will be good again!  Thank you

Hi Lisa

Apparently, you should find these rules have *both* been moved to warnings on SLD for the time being, so you should be able to submit.

Thanks for the update on this, I will give it another try and keep everything crossed they clear.  Thanks again Steve

Did you give it another try? Interested to know if your errors have been removed? I have submitted this morning and still not working!

Hi Jo, 

Sorry it isn't working for you, but pleased it isn't just me having this issue.  It is still not working.  I have just had a reply from the DWP helpdesk and they don't know why the error is triggering and have referred it to their ILR technicians to review and come up with a solution.  If I hear anything else on this I will let you know.

Hi Lisa,

Thank you for the update! I have been staring at my laptop in despair! I will await further comms :)

I have just had a reply to say they moved 156 to a warning, which Steve helped with yesterday so we knew that, but they are looking at error 160 now so I am hoping it will be something they can fix, or just tell us what to do if it is us!!   I will let you know when I hear anything else :)

Hmmmm, I thought 156 was *always* a warning? Looks like it from the validation rules spreadsheet...

Definitely no change on ZPROG001 though which would be the "proper" fix...

Hi Jo,

I have an update, but I am afraid it is not good news, they have come back and said they are aware it is an issue now, they are investigating a fix, but this might not be done until R02, so said to continue with R01 as normal and they will correct any funding required in R02.  Although not great this would be ok if we didn't need to get the learners fully processed through to show on DAS as we cannot do manual applications on there.  I have asked if they can change this to a warning as well, but presume if they could have done that they would have already :(

I thought we could still do manual additions on AS (they've not implemented the 1 August hard close for Apps), or does that not apply to Units?

Unfortunately it is for apps only, there isn't an option for units, they put them on ILR submission only which does not help :( my concerns about not being able to process them have been logged!

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Hi Lisa,

Great...but not great! Thank you for coming back to me. I having everything crossed they can fix before close next week.

Hi Lisa, 

We are having the same issue, did you get a response on this one:  

156 & 160 have been updated to warnings but we are still getting the above error which is preventing us from updating the ILR.

Thanks

Hi Stephanie,

It is great 150 & 160 are warnings now, but we are also still having the same issue with the agreement ID.  We have been able to narrow it down that it isn't being included in the xml download from our MIS database, that field is currently blank even though we have data in the ILR.  We are currently talking to our MIS provider about it, hopefully its the same for you and an easy fix!

Thanks

In reply to Lisa Margach · View original comment

Hi Lisa,

That is exactly the same as us - we've raised it with our provider too! I'll keep you updated if I hear anything back.

Thanks, at least we aren't alone, would you mind saying who your provider is, I am just wondering if it is the same company as us, but no problem if you aren't able to say.  Also if I hear anything I will let you know.