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You'll need to add a new TNP2 line with the date the price was re-negotiated (guidance). Let's say the EPAO told you on 25/06/2021 that the new price has gone from 1000 to 500, the ILR would look something like this;
Original price records;
TNP1 - 01/08/2020 - 10000
TNP2 - 01/08/2020 - 1000
After new price has been negotiated;
TNP1 - 01/08/2020 - 10000
TNP2 - 01/08/2020 - 1000
TNP2 - 25/06/2021 - 500
As far as DAS is concerned, this will trigger a DLOCK as the overall cost will be reduced, at which point you can ask the Employer to adjust the price accordingly
Hi I have been advised to do this for the employers who hadn't decided on their EPA.
We were advised to put the full price of the apprenticeship into the TNP1 including the EPA cost until EPA was decided.
This was so it matched the amount in the DAS. - As it was causing a DLOCK error and stopping us getting paid.
The DAS must show the cost of EPA and Training (we have negotiated costs with EPAs and advise employers that the cost of EPA will likely take the total to or above the FBM therefore the cost of the apprenticeship is £6000 - unless they choose a EPA with a different price)
We were advised by the ESFA that once the price/EPA was agreed we must change both the TNP1 and TNP2
e.g. unknown EPA original price records:
TNP1 = 01/01/2020 £6000 (funding band maximum - to match the estimated total cost reflected in the DAS)
TNP2 - Blank/non returned (this creates a warning but not DLOCK)
EPA confirmed & new negotiated price records:
TNP 1 - 01/01/2021 £6000 (to match DAS)
TNP 1 - 01/04/2021 £5,200
TNP2 - 01/04/2021 £800
I was told that we can't change the DAS after so not to put just the training amount in the DAS as the DAS should reflect the total cost of the programme including EPA.
So this is fine when we add TNP2 and they go with a EPA that matches the pricing. But what if they go with a EPA that charges less. e.g. 720.
Are you saying we then have to have the employer amend the DAS to show total cost of £5920? - is this okay?
And if it is over the FBM do they also have to change the DAS to reflect this or does it not matter as it gets curbed at the FBM?
Are there permission settings for providers to do this on behalf of the employer - as getting employers to change the DAS could result in months of DLOCKs
Michael Felton
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We have recently had a review of our EPA Assessment Prices and the prices have reduced.
What action do I need to take on the ILR section of our Maytas to reflect these price changes.
This is the first time that our prices have changed and we have not had to do this before.
Any advice would be appreciated.