Alison Robinson

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On a couple of our Apprenticeship Standards we want to offer an extra qualification which is not part of the standard but don't want to create any issues for ourselves. How do people set these up, are they coded as funding stream 36 and if offered as part of the Apprenticeship Programme do you need to wait until they have been achieved before the learner can take their EPA?

Any advice gratefully achieved

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Kelly Knights

Hi there Not sure about the ILR side but if its not a mandatory qual you dont need to evidence the completion before EPA.

You also have to demonstrate that Awarding Body costs are not paid out of levy funding. K

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Steve Hewitt

If you're an ITP I wouldn't put them anywhere near your ILR, you're not required to tell ESFA about any work you do that they don't fund.

If you're Grant-funded, would just flag them as FM 99, they're not actually part of the Apprenticeship even if they're delivered alongside it.

As Kelly says, key thing is to make sure you're not paying for any of it out of ESFA/Levy funding and, also, that the hours go *nowhere near* the OTJ record...

Ruth Canham-James

If you're not an ITP, and are obliged to put all your delivery in, definitely code as 99 as Steve said. We learnt that the hard way when apprentices hadn't finished the optional qual by the end of the apprenticeship, and it was throwing errors (no continuing components if the programme aim is closed). We had to withdraw and restart as unfunded. Fine, but an admin task we could have done without.

Regarding OTJ, sometimes I guess the content delivered for the optional qual could already be being delivered as part of the Standard, so could get messy.

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Steve Hewitt

Fair point at the end there, I was thinking about, eg, First Aid at Work, where it's not related to the KSBs at all.