Embedding AEB courses

I can't see a problem with having one register leading to two qualifications? Because AEB (for now) is entirely "hours-blind" I can't see what would pop up (although are GLA starting to mither about this?)? You'd want them to be entirely separate qualifications though, not two things that overlapped...

They are wanting to embed (sorry if spelt incorrectly) a Employability course alongside a Teaching Assistant L2 course with the same dates. Is that okay?

I mean, I think I'd *like* eg a morning register for the employability and an afternoon one for the TA, BUT that's putting the admin cart before the pedagogical horse!!! If they're legitimately delivering it in such a way that it wouldn't be easy to untangle, then we shouldn't discourage innovation. Effectively, it's only going to even vaguely be an issue for withdrawals, but I've never known an auditor to get deep into what was taught when, just what their last date of attendance was because, even where you've got separate parallel registers, it's highly likely the learner would have matching dates for both...

We embed stuff in 16-19 funded on one course, and it really upsets auditors! They can cope with us saying Qual A is 30 hours and Qual B is 170 hours and the combined timetable is 200 hours. What they get agitated about is how we evidence the start and end dates. Half the time, all you need to do is name the register to clearly show both quals, and to them that suddenly makes it ok. To be forced to deliver discrete quals in separate timetables just to appease auditors, is the tail wagging the dog. We do what suits our students, and then we try and record that as accurately as possible in the ILR.

So, just make sure you have some form of evidence to support the start and end dates. That might be lesson plans showing components of both quals in the first and last lessons, or it might just be registers that are labelled as both quals.

Strong animal idioms from Steve and me!

Thanks both. I have a scheme of work but it doesn't have specific dates.

The provider suggested they could give dates for one of the courses covering days 1-3 and the other course covering the remaining days.

Just to add to this. On our attendance registers we put the times but also the qual and units being covered in each half day session. This has been accepted by GLA auditors.