Ben James

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If an apprentice is changing specialisms within the same standard (akin to changing pathways I would say), how are people processing these generally? Closing the old record down per the "Record new aims when an apprentice transfers to a different apprenticeship programme" guidance? Or simply noting the change in the paperwork? 

None of the codes will be different on the ILR, so I am conflicted as to whether we need to affect a change on it simply because the delivery is changing, or whether we leave it as-is because we'll only be returning exactly the same data anyway.

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Steve Hewitt

Very much doubt that I'd change it. Not least because if everything's the same, the ILR might get super confused... A note in the paperwork should suffice?

Ben James

Thanks Steve Hewitt, appreciate the response and I am inclined to agree. The programme team are now saying that the delivery of the new specialism is not due to conclude until much later than the one the apprentice is currently on, and are therefore asking if we can extend the PED accordingly. Sigh. 

Steve Hewitt

Sigh...

Yeah, if each Specialism was an actual separate Standard code, you'd be grand, could transfer no problem, but transferring to the same thing just makes my eyeballs itch...

Ben James

Yeah it's a funny one. Each specialism obviously requires a particular set of skills (no 'Taken' jokes), so perhaps we should conduct another Skills Scan to assess their new starting point.

If there's a period of a couple of months between them transferring between specialisms where there'll be no learning (because of how the timetabling works).. do you think we should we put them on a BIL, or just let them run on? 

Steve Hewitt

Doesn't sound like a Break to me, but you know I have Strong Opinions on this matter...

Ben James

Agnieszka Slipek

Change to specialism should trigger revision of Commitment Statement and it's plan of learning but considering all specialism share core components only fraction of the learning plan would need to be revised. Change will trigger revision of specialism on Apprenticeship Service as these should be confirmed at a start. Finally the change might  trigger TNP revision if specialism requires more or less training than the original pathway selected but ILR main aim would not change since standards have 1 code regardless of specialism/pathways selected.