Rebecca Drury

End dates have changed in ILR

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Hi everyone, we have discovered changes to some of our learner's ILRs which need to be rectified before R14 and I've not been able to find the answers I'm looking for.

Background: Some slight amendments were made to one of our apprenticeship standards which changed the learning plan and reduced the training/practical period by around a month (not the planned end date, just the practical end date). The changes weren't enough to require re-validation so it’s the same programme and everyone with more than 12 months left on programme would be affected, not just brand new apprentices, and we needed new compliance docs to reflect the changes. (For info none are pre-2020/21 funding year starts so the end dates in the ILR are training/practical end dates).

We spoke to our MIS provider and worked out a way to update the system for those already on programme. Our objective was to update the programme and NOT the ILR - because the dates were correct when the learners originally started then we wouldn't change the training end date in the ILR. However, one of our employers questioned a change to their drawdown for a previous cohort.

On closer inspection it looks like the new practical end date seeped into the ILR for a number of our apprentices - some just the learning aim but others have had both the learning aim and ZPROG changed.

I just want to clarify that I am on the right track with what we need to do!

Because the original practical end date was correct when the apprentices first started, do we have to correct the end dates in the ILR for both aims for all affected apprentices regardless of the year they originally started?

Or is the learning aim OK to remain with the new end date if it is actually now correct (if it is the ZPROG that dictates the funding and drawdown), but then what to do where apprentices started before the 2021/22 funding year?

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Martin West

It is simple you must not change planned end date for the Programme, they need to stay as originally reported on the ILR.

Rebecca Drury

Thanks Martin. I thought so, just needed to hear it again!

Ruth Canham-James

There are instructions on the PSM about correcting Planned End Date errors after you've reported them in a closed year. You can't just change them between one year and the next, or the records don't connect up. The record from 21/22 will appear as a withdrawal in your stats I think, in the absence of a matching record in 21/22. If the date difference is small, it's rarely worth it. I don't think I'd worry about a month. If it's a year out, we'd definitely fix it (we've done that before).

Rebecca Drury

Thank you, Ruth, that is interesting (and I'm saving that page because I can never find it when I need it!). We are going to manually correct them before R14, there are quite a few and we have discovered this afternoon that it seems to have occurred because of the change to the programme we applied in our system automatically updating the ILR despite all "update ILR " tick boxes being left blank. It's so annoying and I'm surprised that they haven't flagged on a report somewhere or on PDSAT. 

Ruth Canham-James

Don't these come up in FRM06? That's one of the ones that comes in the Data Quality Report you get each time you submit.

Rebecca Drury

Nope, none of them are on the FRM06 tab. The only reason we realised was because an employer noticed a change to their drawdown amount, and I think that was only where the ZPROG date changed as well. Nothing like being kept on your toes in the run up to R14!!

Ruth Canham-James

Rebecca Drury There's a bit of software called SCORE (by Drake Lane) that finds changes like this. You can plug in ILRs from two years and compare them. It looks for areas where you might have underclaimed too. We've had it for years, it's really useful for finding errors that ESFA don't have reports for.

Rebecca Drury

Oh wow, that sounds incredibly helpful, I will definitely look into that, thank you Ruth