Desiree Rooker
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Desiree Rooker commented,
Following on from this thread. Missing completion payment: I have a learner who we collected co-investment for with a levy employer, recorded in Pro Solutions in the ILR, the student then withdrew. She then returned to the same apprenticeship as a restart, but now with a non-levy employer. Co-Investment for the remainder programme was paid by the new employer and recorded in the ILR. But now after completing the apprenticeship we have not received the completion payment. On the co-investment report it is not pulling through the co-investments before the withdrawal. Is it then the process to record those co-investments again, it doesn't seem correct against the new employer? Any ideas? Thank you
Following on from this thread. Missing completion payment: I have a learner who we collected co-investment for with a levy employer, recorded in Pro Solutions in the ILR, the student then withdrew...
Desiree Rooker commented,
Thanks for the reply, Ruth The ESFA recommended this: When adding new TNP3 and TNP4 prices at a later date - you must remember this is a residual cost from the new date that the costs are being added. Where leaners changed employers in the previous funding year, to then record a change in TNP3 and TNP 4 to reflect an increase in EPA assessment costs - you would need to add a new TNP3 and TNP4 residual cost dated in the current funding year. You will then need to use the Data mismatch process to update the agreed cost on the Apprenticeship Service record. I understand matching the data lock. My question with this is if you add a new date against the TNP3 and TNP 4, in the ILR, at the point when the EPA price changed, other than trying to match the changes in pricing will it not look in the AS employer account for a date that matches that change as well in the AS account against the employer. How would you get around that?
Thanks for the reply, Ruth The ESFA recommended this: When adding new TNP3 and TNP4 prices at a later date - you must remember this is a residual cost from the new date that the costs are being add...
Desiree Rooker commented,
Desiree Rooker commented,
Hi Tracey Thank you for your response. I thought that once you use a TNP3 and TNP4 in the ILR you can't use TNP1 and TNP2 entries again? I appreciate what you have send through and will try and think about the best solution. Can I ask if there is a limit on the AS ACCOUNT how far back (IN MONTHS) you can go back and stop and employer account and start a new one with residual costs, is there flexibility with this? If none of these options has a good outcome, can you reverse an entry in the ILR, or correct it e.g. option 3 once it has been uploaded to the ESFA?
Hi Tracey Thank you for your response. I thought that once you use a TNP3 and TNP4 in the ILR you can't use TNP1 and TNP2 entries again? I appreciate what you have send through and will try and thi...
Desiree Rooker commented,
Hi Ruth I am just following this post as I have a similar issue. Learner changed employer so TNP3 and TNP4 is in the ILR, if we now have to change the assessment price TNP4, it is under funding band max, in this financial year do I add a new TNP3 and TNP4 at the same point when they changed employer originally with the same dates or at the point when the assessment price change happens with new residual costs? How will that work with the AS DAS account, will it not look for date changes there to match? Is there a way we can avoid changing AS account when we have TNP3 and TNP4 values? Also, some learners changed employers in the previous academic year if we enter residual costs say from 1Aug 2024, how will you update DAS?
Hi Ruth I am just following this post as I have a similar issue. Learner changed employer so TNP3 and TNP4 is in the ILR, if we now have to change the assessment price TNP4, it is under funding ban...
Desiree Rooker commented,
Hello there I have had a similar issue with updating a change in EPA price where a learner has changed employer previously, in an academic year that is closed. In our case to avoid a data lock we entered the TNP3 and TNP4 values in resulting in a overclaim of funding. I was wondering have you had feedback from the ESFA since in how to record this correctly. I have a ticket open, and I know what the issue is but no way of knowing how to fix this and what to do in the future to record this correctly. The issue is also what dates to use and what to do with the employer account? Can anyone help please?
Hello there I have had a similar issue with updating a change in EPA price where a learner has changed employer previously, in an academic year that is closed. In our case to avoid a data lock we e...
Desiree Rooker commented,
Hi Ruth Thank you for the reply, okay that is good advice.
Hi Ruth Thank you for the reply, okay that is good advice.
Desiree Rooker commented,
I have a learner that withdrew in July 2024, she wants to return to the same apprenticeship to complete it. Her original start date was June 2022, so she completed a large amount of learning at point of withdrawal. She has since changed employers and the new employer is willing to let her come back to us, restart the apprenticeship and complete it. She will have less than a year left to complete, possibly sitting EPA to Nov 2025. Then there is also not a lot of funding left on the apprenticeship. Will this student be eligible to restart? Any advice would be appreciated.
I have a learner that withdrew in July 2024, she wants to return to the same apprenticeship to complete it. Her original start date was June 2022, so she completed a large amount of learning at poi...
Desiree Rooker commented,
Hi Martin, following on from this conversation. We have a learner who is currently on a BIL and due to return next year on the apprenticeship. Now whilst still on a BIL we have been informed she has changed employers in November 2024. What is the correct or best way to record this situation in the ILR, as I have not come across this before, also how do I match this up to the employer account on DAS. Desiree
Hi Martin, following on from this conversation. We have a learner who is currently on a BIL and due to return next year on the apprenticeship. Now whilst still on a BIL we have been informed she ha...