Sharon Lillywhite commented, 01 April 2026 15:02

Steve, FYI - this does not come up as a validation error anywhere, therefore up until a COE whilst in this position, we have not found any issues coding this way and been through external audits. 

1. Change of employer on code 2:8

Steve, FYI - this does not come up as a validation error anywhere, therefore up until a COE whilst in this position, we have not found any issues coding this way and been through external audits. 

Sharon Lillywhite commented, 01 April 2026 15:00

thank you both so much for your input into this. i am going to take this away and address it with our team and internal process. Ill raise with the helpdesk now for support. 

1. Change of employer on code 2:8

thank you both so much for your input into this. i am going to take this away and address it with our team and internal process. Ill raise with the helpdesk now for support. 

Sharon Lillywhite commented, 01 April 2026 11:59

Hi Just to clarify, the standard has 3 elements in EPA , the programme aim is are coded 2:8 when all 3 elements have been sat awaiting outcome in order to release completion payment , but then require a resit in one area. They are not fails at this stage, it is in this stage that the learner in question has now changed employer - this employer is willing to support the learner to achievement.  Do you record the change of employer at this stage in the ILR but no TNP 3 and 4 . My concern is when the achievement is finally recorded to 2:1 , this learner is with the new employer, but DAS is still in completion with the 1st employer so the completion certs will go to the previous employer. The Funding rules state you can do a change of employer at completion but not achievement stage 120. The apprentice must be employed until the end-point assessment is completed. Consideration must be given to the potential time needed for any re-sit and / or re-training prior to re-taking the end-point assessment so the apprentice remains employed during this time. 120.1. The only exception is where the apprentice has been made redundant and we are funding the apprenticeship to completion. In this case, any main provider responsible for the completion of the training can act as a proxy employer for the purposes of providing any required employer competency statement. This does not mean the main provider records themselves as the employer in the ILR.  120.2. Where an apprentice has changed employer after they have completed all the training and reached gateway, including where the new job role is not related to the apprenticeship, the apprentice may complete the end-point assessment in agreement with the end-point assessment organisation and the provider, so long as the end-point assessment can be successfully delivered and funded. 120.2.1 Providers must contact apprenticeship service support to get approval to report this change to us and to receive the technical details for claiming the completion payment. thanks for feedback so far

1. Change of employer on code 2:8

Hi Just to clarify, the standard has 3 elements in EPA , the programme aim is are coded 2:8 when all 3 elements have been sat awaiting outcome in order to release completion payment , but then requ...

Sharon Lillywhite commented, 28 March 2024 10:21

Hi, Just read this, SME  16-21 year olds , 22-24 EHCP up to 50 employees no financial contribution. 5% remains for over 50 employees for all learners if non levy. Is this how everyone is reading this?

1. SME Co Investment announcement 18.03.24

Hi, Just read this, SME  16-21 year olds , 22-24 EHCP up to 50 employees no financial contribution. 5% remains for over 50 employees for all learners if non levy. Is this how everyone is reading this?

Sharon Lillywhite commented, 18 March 2024 16:44

thank you Paul, this is the feedback i am receiving from Linkedin as well. Thank you for responding.

1. SME Co Investment announcement 18.03.24

thank you Paul, this is the feedback i am receiving from Linkedin as well. Thank you for responding.

Sharon Lillywhite commented, 07 November 2023 18:21

Hi Simon, did you get any further with the OOFs? we are about to start a process of sending out all our OOFs new App Agreements,but if we have clarification that evidence of re planning activity is enough, this will eliminate this huge task to do this as our apprentices are re planned, just not had the forms yet. Also can i ask , if a learner does all her OTJ but still not in gateway and had no new end date agreed, do they legally still have to pay for study time to complete the course to gateway? We have an OOF, OTJ logged to 20% but still not at gateway and the employer is now questioning, do they still have to pay to release her when technically the agreement has expired. Talks are in to extend as i type but its a good answer to have if needed again.

1. Actual End Date on Apprenticeship Agreement 2023/24

Hi Simon, did you get any further with the OOFs? we are about to start a process of sending out all our OOFs new App Agreements,but if we have clarification that evidence of re planning activity is...

Sharon Lillywhite commented, 13 July 2023 14:12

Anyone able to answer ?   Hi  I am coding my first employer using the levy transfer funding. Can i check this is correct. we have highlighted our employer is a small employer , removed the 5% co investment amount and against the programme aim i have put ACT1 and 1L to show funding through levy.  Is this how everyone else codes it or do you still code it as 1N for non levy?  i thought using levy would avoid triggering the expected co investment amount? thank you  

1. Levy-Transfer

Anyone able to answer ?   Hi  I am coding my first employer using the levy transfer funding. Can i check this is correct. we have highlighted our employer is a small employer , removed the 5% co in...

Sharon Lillywhite commented, 10 July 2023 11:47

Hi, has anyone had site of the new template for 23/24 yet for the training plan?

1. Training Plan & Apprenticeship Agreement Template 23/24

Hi, has anyone had site of the new template for 23/24 yet for the training plan?

Sharon Lillywhite commented, 16 March 2023 14:45

Thank you Ben, its because we created a new episode of learning sue to 5 month break, but i think your right , ill change this and run it through the hub now and check DAS. Thank you 

1. DAS issues

Thank you Ben, its because we created a new episode of learning sue to 5 month break, but i think your right , ill change this and run it through the hub now and check DAS. Thank you 

Sharon Lillywhite commented, 16 March 2023 13:16

Hi Louise, thank you for responding... I have those ones you have shown and yes as long as we receive the right amount i have left these ones but its the new one . this learner has had 3 employers in total , so on her first episode (2 employers) her TNPs looked like this , this was from start date up to September 2022 - withdrawal dates and episode end dates entered Sept 22 [image]   then when she restarted in Feb 23 , her new episode of learner (restart indicators used on the Zprog ) looked like this which was 7th Feb , so i dont get how the DAS is showing 7th Feb with an old value which was dated 25/07/2022 [image]   Any other ideas?

1. DAS issues

Hi Louise, thank you for responding... I have those ones you have shown and yes as long as we receive the right amount i have left these ones but its the new one . this learner has had 3 employers ...