Kate Nicholson
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Kate Nicholson commented,
Hi Jade I'm interested as to how you dealt with this one please as I have exactly the same issue and the helpdesk are completely contradicting the funding guidance! I can't find in the funding guidance that a learner cannot return on the original standard although the helpdesk are telling me they have to be on the latest one, I'm wondering if this is because the Apprenticeship Service automatically puts a learner onto the latest version?! Further to this, the helpdesk are also telling me that the learner will have to be on for the minimum duration rather than it being treated like a restart and the combined durations equaling 365 days Clear as mud!
Hi Jade I'm interested as to how you dealt with this one please as I have exactly the same issue and the helpdesk are completely contradicting the funding guidance! I can't find in the funding gui...
Kate Nicholson commented,
The helpdesk are now adamant that the learner has to return for 365 days! I'm losing the will here :-( I understand from your email you would like to know if a learner who is returning to a new version will need to complete the minimum duration or if they can do the 2 months that were remaining when they withdrew. Kate, as the learner will now be a restart they will need to complete the minimum durations of 365 days. Although the price can be reduced in regards to their RPL from their previous learning before they were withdrawn.
The helpdesk are now adamant that the learner has to return for 365 days! I'm losing the will here :-( I understand from your email you would like to know if a learner who is returning to a new ver...
Kate Nicholson commented,
We have one learner who was withdrawn due to a bad car accident but has now decided to come back to the same employer after a year, in this instance we did put him back on the newest version for the minimum duration and RPL'd him but against the new TNP of £10000 (which was £4000 more then when he was originally enrolled £6000) which ended up being £7984. He was then flagged in the report showing where we have charged over the max funding band so I think your theory above about them tying the reports together is correct. We could ask the employer to pay the difference but I don't think they will retrospectively so we would need to amend the TNP to be £6000 as per the original enrolment to remove him from the report It's all very confusing!
We have one learner who was withdrawn due to a bad car accident but has now decided to come back to the same employer after a year, in this instance we did put him back on the newest version for th...
Kate Nicholson commented,
The helpdesk told me that if a standard has been updated while a learner was withdrawn, they would need to return on the latest version, I'm now trying to find this written in the funding guidance...........do you not think it's the case? Yes, the learner was withdrawn due to an employer gap of more than 90 days
The helpdesk told me that if a standard has been updated while a learner was withdrawn, they would need to return on the latest version, I'm now trying to find this written in the funding guidance....
Kate Nicholson commented,
Just one more question from our Business Development Team...........why does the max funding band have to be capped at the original price if the version change includes a TNP raise, usually down to there being more learning within the new version? Surely then we are missing out as we have to use the latest version but cannot amend the price?
Just one more question from our Business Development Team...........why does the max funding band have to be capped at the original price if the version change includes a TNP raise, usually down to...
Kate Nicholson commented,
Hi Also slightly worried about this as we have a lot of employer changes and I have not followed their guidance in terms of co-investment and employers will not be happy if we now go back to them and tell them it's going to cost them :-( Have there been any updates at all to their guidance? Thanks Kate
Hi Also slightly worried about this as we have a lot of employer changes and I have not followed their guidance in terms of co-investment and employers will not be happy if we now go back to them a...
Kate Nicholson commented,
Thanks Ruth The helpdesk are advising that as it is a new version, it is classed as a new start and should therefore meet the minimum duration hence my confusion! My initial thought was as you say Ruth, if the standard code is the same, it is the same standard.
Thanks Ruth The helpdesk are advising that as it is a new version, it is classed as a new start and should therefore meet the minimum duration hence my confusion! My initial thought was as you say ...
Kate Nicholson commented,
Just jumping on this as I have something similar. As this learner withdrew in a previous funding year and would not have rolled into the current year, can it still be classed as a restart?? We have such an example at the moment. Withdrawn September 2021 but has decided he wants to finish the Apprenticeship, he only has a few pieces of work to complete so cannot be a new start as he will never hit minimum duration. I'm thinking it can't be done as a restart??
Just jumping on this as I have something similar. As this learner withdrew in a previous funding year and would not have rolled into the current year, can it still be classed as a restart?? We have...