Joan Mitchell
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Joan Mitchell commented,
This error is also showing when you upload a file to Submit Learner Data and not just the FIS. I have lots of these now too.
This error is also showing when you upload a file to Submit Learner Data and not just the FIS. I have lots of these now too.
Joan Mitchell commented,
Joan Mitchell commented,
Hi, Jessi I use Pro Solution. Regardless of how the enrolment is taken these default to "no" for include in return. I have had a few conversations with Advanced around this field. They haven’t yet made the tables available for viewing or reporting, they are still the old ones. Due to this you will be unable to bulk update this field until they update the system, which they will do in the next release. We dont use online enrolment and we have had this issue. It also affects any rollover learners you have, but if you create a view with the Prior Attainment Level you should get their level recored in the previous year (as the new table is not yet visible, but the old one is (bazzar I know) and you can update the current year with a new record and tick to include in return. I hope this helps Joan
Hi, Jessi I use Pro Solution. Regardless of how the enrolment is taken these default to "no" for include in return. I have had a few conversations with Advanced around this field. They haven’t ye...
Joan Mitchell commented,
HI All The FIS has now been updated and this is now a WARNING rather than an error. thanks for all your input Joan
HI All The FIS has now been updated and this is now a WARNING rather than an error. thanks for all your input Joan
Joan Mitchell commented,
Hi all this was the email address I sent my request to, is this the correct email address for the service desk, if so we know it has gone to the correct place Received: Tue Aug 10 2021 16:16:07 GMT+0100 (British Summer Time) To: ESFA Enquiry Service <sde.servicedesk@education.gov.uk>; Adult education enquiries <sde.servicedesk@education.gov.uk>; Subject: RE: FIS R01 error help CI-0092848 CRM:0052800515 thanks in advance Joan
Hi all this was the email address I sent my request to, is this the correct email address for the service desk, if so we know it has gone to the correct place Received: Tue Aug 10 2021 16:16:07 GMT...
Joan Mitchell commented,
Hi Martin the dates are correct for these enrolments, its triggering the error as the dates are after the date of the file I am loading into the FIS. so........... I run a file today 11/08/2021 and run it though FIS, the error triggers as the learners earliers start date and subsiquent "Date Level applies from" is after 11/08/01. Surely this is a validation error on its own and not linked to any other, as long as the date is actually correct this could be a Warning rather than an error.
Hi Martin the dates are correct for these enrolments, its triggering the error as the dates are after the date of the file I am loading into the FIS. so........... I run a file today 11/08/2021 and...
Joan Mitchell commented,
Hi all, I asked yesterday if this could be moved from being an Error to a Warning. I have had a relpy this morning to say it has been passed to the Validation Team.
Hi all, I asked yesterday if this could be moved from being an Error to a Warning. I have had a relpy this morning to say it has been passed to the Validation Team.
Joan Mitchell commented,
Steveh, why would we submit files with errors.................we have spent years ensuring files dont have errors!!! I have asked our MI system provider if the threshold date is correct for extracting the ILR for the R01. I have since asked the ESFA the same question about the FIS. I will let you know if and when I get a response :)
Steveh, why would we submit files with errors.................we have spent years ensuring files dont have errors!!! I have asked our MI system provider if the threshold date is correct for extract...
Joan Mitchell commented,
I have had a similar response. The rule is triggering as there is no need to return a learner prior to their start date. This entity is completed when the learning agreement has been agreed between the learner and provider. The prior attainment relevant to the agreement is recorded on the ILR with the start date matching the earliest learning aim start date for the agreement. Where all learning activities relating to the agreement have been completed and if the learner progresses into further learning with the same provider, a new learning agreement is made and a new prior attainment to reflect that learning agreement is recorded. The prior attainment is not updated during the period of learning where all activities relating to the learning agreement are continuing. The prior attainment is not updated at the end of all learning activities relating to the learner agreement. A new record is only added at the start of any subsequent learning where a new learning agreement has been signed.
I have had a similar response. The rule is triggering as there is no need to return a learner prior to their start date. This entity is completed when the learning agreement has been agreed betw...