Louise Tomkins
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Louise Tomkins commented,
Thanks Paul, I can confirm mine is now updated. Many thanks Louise
Thanks Paul, I can confirm mine is now updated. Many thanks Louise
Louise Tomkins commented,
Hi Margaret Foster, I sent a query to the ESFA this morning and got a response that they are having technical difficulties releasing the QAR P14, they will apparently update when this is resolved. Hope this helps Louise
Hi Margaret Foster, I sent a query to the ESFA this morning and got a response that they are having technical difficulties releasing the QAR P14, they will apparently update when this is resolved. ...
Louise Tomkins commented,
Hi Sue, ACE is frameworks only. Providers do not see completion certificates for standards unless the apprentice provides them, these are now the responsibility of the EPAO to request from IfATE and they get sent directly to the Employer, however, since lockdown they have been sending direct to the Apprentice. Hope this helps Louise
Hi Sue, ACE is frameworks only. Providers do not see completion certificates for standards unless the apprentice provides them, these are now the responsibility of the EPAO to request from IfATE an...
Louise Tomkins commented,
Almost all of our levy employers who need to co-invest go in and out of levy funds, so the values can change month by month so we invoice based on the shortfall. As Ruth said, if you know they are highly unlikely to ever have funds in their levy account you can invoice up front for 5% of the full price but you need to be mindful that if the apprentice withdraws at any point you will owe the employer a refund.
Almost all of our levy employers who need to co-invest go in and out of levy funds, so the values can change month by month so we invoice based on the shortfall. As Ruth said, if you know they are ...
Louise Tomkins commented,
If you don't amend the TNP3 value upon the return from the break it would ignore the £1,500 you claimed from the second employer, so would expect a further £8,000, as if it were another change of employer. This would result in you exceeding your original max TNP by £1,500, totalling £11,500 (£2,000 from employer 1, £1,500 from employer 2 pre-break and then £8k from employer 2 post-break. This gets even worse if you didn't charge the band max at the start, as this is the only way the ILR knows how to cap it. I hope this helps, we only know as we run a long 3+ year programme and have had multiple scenarios of this unfortunately. Kind Regards Louise P.S. Sorry for all the messages, it was too many characters but I felt needed the explanation for you.
If you don't amend the TNP3 value upon the return from the break it would ignore the £1,500 you claimed from the second employer, so would expect a further £8,000, as if it were another change of e...
Louise Tomkins commented,
For example, if we assume the band max was £10k and this was charged to employer 1: Employer 1 TNP1 - £9,000 TNP2 - £1,000 Total TNP - £10,000 Claimed £2,000 before they change employer Employer 2 TNP3 - £7,000 TNP4 - £1,000 Total TNP - £8,000 Claimed £1,500 before they went on the break Return from Break in Learning TNP3 - £5,500 TNP4 - £1,000 Total TNP - £6,500 Due to the change in TNP you also need to ask you employer to approve a DAS change to ensure the value meets your ILR value.
For example, if we assume the band max was £10k and this was charged to employer 1: Employer 1 TNP1 - £9,000 TNP2 - £1,000 Total TNP - £10,000 Claimed £2,000 before they change employerEmployer 2...
Louise Tomkins commented,
Hi Emma, We have had this a few times and we haven't been able to find specific guidance either, we have been back and forth with the service desk and asked for published guidance on it, but I don't think it has appeared. Unfortunately, neither of the options you mentioned quite work, TNP3/4 for new employers work in a very specific way, that can't deal with breaks. The guidance we have been given is that we use TNP3/4 but not at the same value as originally agreed with the second (or subsequent employer) as this doesn't consider the funding you have had from the second employer prior to the break due to the way TNP3/4 works, so if you use the same TNP3/4 values, you will ultimately exceed the cap (or any reduced rate you agreed at the start of the programme). You need to create a new TNP3/4, take the values from the second employer, then reduce the TNP3 by the value of funding you claimed from the second employer up to the point of the break.
Hi Emma, We have had this a few times and we haven't been able to find specific guidance either, we have been back and forth with the service desk and asked for published guidance on it, but I don'...
Louise Tomkins commented,
Thanks for replying Sam Bern, this is really helpful and I'm glad it was straight forward for you. Yes all evidence in place, the 60 days would have been within this academic year, but completely appreciate your point about it crossing year end. Many thanks Louise
Thanks for replying Sam Bern, this is really helpful and I'm glad it was straight forward for you. Yes all evidence in place, the 60 days would have been within this academic year, but completely a...
Louise Tomkins commented,
Hi Sam Bern, Sorry to re-open your post but just curious if you got paid for your EEF4 Care Leaver Bursary through the ILR. We have a similar situation with an apprentice starting in June, but we haven't yet made the claim, so outside of the 60 days from start. The below (random help centre article), suggests we need to use the EAS, which I know has been posted on another post, but doesn't feel like official guidance with it not being in the other formal guidance or main bursary page. https://customerhelp.education.gov.uk/hc/en-gb/articles/19791863337746-Care-Leavers-Bursary Did you get paid directly through the ILR or did you have to submit the EAS? Would really appreciate an update, many thanks Louise
Hi Sam Bern, Sorry to re-open your post but just curious if you got paid for your EEF4 Care Leaver Bursary through the ILR. We have a similar situation with an apprentice starting in June, but we h...
Louise Tomkins commented,
Hi Aayushi, The FRM reports are now on the View Your Education Data portal, same place as the QAR data and Apprenticeship Accountability Dashboard, if you don't have access to the portal or can't see the reports, you will need to speak to a superuser to update your permissions. I hope this helps Louise
Hi Aayushi, The FRM reports are now on the View Your Education Data portal, same place as the QAR data and Apprenticeship Accountability Dashboard, if you don't have access to the portal or can't s...