Martin West
Consultant and Software Supplier (open source) for over 15 years, previously15 years experience as a Training Provider Email: md.west60@googlemail.com
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Martin West commented,
Both changes make sense and should not be a problem for Providers or Software Supplies to implement.
Both changes make sense and should not be a problem for Providers or Software Supplies to implement.
Martin West commented,
The requirement is: P72 Before the apprenticeship practical period starts and before the apprenticeship agreement is signed, you must ensure that the apprentice and their employer have contributed to and signed a copy of the commitment statement (often known as the individual learning plan). This must set out how all three parties (apprentice, employer, and main provider) will support the achievement of the apprenticeship. This has to be completed first as the data feeds into the Apprenticeship Agreement but they do not have to be completed the same day. HTH
The requirement is:P72 Before the apprenticeship practical period starts and before the apprenticeship agreement is signed, you must ensure that the apprentice and their employer have contributed t...
Martin West commented,
Hi Madalina, On the Apprenticeship Agreement the Apprenticeship start date may be before the Practical period start date (ILR start Date) when they have been employed as an Apprentice prior to them starting the Apprenticeship training practical period with the Provider. This gives time for Provider and employer to set up accounts and complete all paperwork prior to the ILR start date. Note: OTJ training towards the 20% cannot be take place prior to the start of the practical period. HTH
Hi Madalina,On the Apprenticeship Agreement the Apprenticeship start date may be before the Practical period start date (ILR start Date) when they have been employed as an Apprentice prior to them ...
Martin West commented,
The guidance in the ILR Specifications supports it is the Full Hours over the duration of the practical period delivered by the Provider and not the proportion delivered on a return from a BIL. Planned hours Definition For apprenticeships this field collects the Planned off-the-job training hours (as defined in the funding rules) that will be delivered to the individual apprentice over the full apprenticeship (excluding the end-point assessment period) by the training provider, sub-contracted training providers and the employer. Actual Hours for Off the Job Training Definition This field collects the total Actual off-the-job training hours (as defined in the funding rules) that is delivered to the individual apprentice over the practical period of the apprenticeship (before gateway). This should be entered at the end of the apprenticeship programme.
The guidance in the ILR Specifications supports it is the Full Hours over the duration of the practical period delivered by the Provider and not the proportion delivered on a return from a BIL.Plan...
Martin West commented,
Hi, The Provider should advise the employer as part of agreeing the commitment statement ,based on the requirements of the assessment plan. HTH
Hi,The Provider should advise the employer as part of agreeing the commitment statement ,based on the requirements of the assessment plan.HTH
Martin West commented,
Hi Simon. The funding rules requirement for this is: P56 Since 1 August 2019 planned off-the-job training hours must also be documented on the individualised learner record. You must not change this figure once submitted (except for a data input error at the beginning of the programme). P57 From 1 August 2020, for the learners referenced in paragraph P56 (those where we have planned hours information on the ILR), we also require actual off-the-job training hours to be documented on the ILR at the end of the practical period. P57.1 We do not require actual hours information on the ILR where the apprenticeship has been disrupted by: P57.1.1 a change of provider; P57.1.2 a change of programme; or P57.1.3 where an apprentice has been withdrawn from the programme or put on a break in learning. P57.2 We reserve the right to include these at a later date. As PHours is validated for all starts on or after 1 August 2019 where this is recorded indicates that Actual Hours for Off the Job Training must be recorded at the end of the Practical Period. HTH
Hi Simon.The funding rules requirement for this is:P56 Since 1 August 2019 planned off-the-job training hours must also be documented on the individualised learner record. You must not change this ...
Martin West commented,
Hi, The following from the PSM indicates that the Planned Hours field covers the entire duration of the programme as recorded on the commitment statement and I would agree that this should not be changed when a learner returns from a BIL. Data Management Principle 4 requires that: Basic pieces of information about a learner and their learning must remain constant once entered in the ILR except where the information has been entered in error and Planned hours is one of the fields specified. For both apprenticeships and T Levels, planned hours are only recorded against the programme aim, are set at the beginning and cover the entire duration of the programme. It is important to record the data in this field accurately at the being of the programme based on its supporting evidence. Data in this field should not be amended. The exception to this is if you are correcting a recording error. To correct the error providers are permitted to change the field value to reflect the evidence they have in the evidence pack. This includes changes required after hard close. We will monitor changes to ensure compliance with this field. HTH
Hi,The following from the PSM indicates that the Planned Hours field covers the entire duration of the programme as recorded on the commitment statement and I would agree that this should not be ch...
Martin West commented,
No, see the following note from the ILR Specifications. We understand there is interest to be able to receive protected characteristics of learners such as gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, disability (LLDD), SEN, marital status, religion, paternity/ maternity leave etc. We don’t have an operational use for these characteristics centrally that justifies increasing the burden on the administrative collection. We therefore only collect LLDD, ethnicity and historically sex within further education data. Whilst we understand the importance of the other characteristics mentioned being used to understand the balance of learners/ apprentices, our policy has always been not to collect such data. This is as the onus of the collection lies upon the learning providers, FE colleges and employers to collect this information as well as take informed action based on the data such as putting in place reasonable adjustment, as set out in the Equality Act 2010. Furthermore, our data collection system for FE (ILR) is an administrative data collection system with it’s primary purpose being a funding data collection for providers. Asking for extra items would also burden providers in extending their collection and adapting their system to meet these requirements.
No, see the following note from the ILR Specifications.We understand there is interest to be able to receive protected characteristics of learners such as gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, dis...
Martin West commented,
Hi Simon, I do not think the DV have been populated since 2018. HTH
Hi Simon,I do not think the DV have been populated since 2018.HTH
Martin West commented,
Hi Simon, Should not be an issue, although if price has changed will have to update price on ILR and DAS. HTH
Hi Simon,Should not be an issue, although if price has changed will have to update price on ILR and DAS.HTH