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Dan Hodgetts commented,

FYI - FIS is throwing out an "DateOfBirth_48" / "The learner is not over the school leaving age" error so i'm guessing its a no! :) 

FYI - FIS is throwing out an "DateOfBirth_48" / "The learner is not over the school leaving age" error so i'm guessing its a no! :) 

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Learner Entry Tool https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/908364/Learner_Entry_Tool_User_Guide_2021.pdf

Learner Entry Tool https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/908364/Learner_Entry_Tool_User_Guide_2021.pdf

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Dan Hodgetts commented,

Steve is right, consider separating out the question into Compliance and Quality Compliance = no funding or audit requirement to evidence initial assessment for learners who present exemption evidence.  Quality = 1) how do you know the learner has the requisite level of E/M to meet the required level of the Apprenticeship; 2) what would be your teaching & learning response to a learner who has exemptions but achieved =<L1 in their I/A (consider learners who have exemption evidence from many years ago, how do you know their level of E/M hasn't lapsed?); 3) does your Apprenticeship have an entry criteria (ie L4+ Apprenticeship = minimum  L2 standard in E/M - is this based on exemption evidence of I/A results?  No right or wrong answer to this, but consider that the higher the apprenticeship level, the greater potential it has to be more academic/stretching in nature and therefore may require a requisite level of Functional Skill - if that's the case how will you assess this without doing an I/A? On whole the majority of the Providers I know do an I/A irrespective of prior attainment and decide on the best route forward from there on a individual learner basis (and of course Steve Hewitt hit the nail on the head....consider our friends at Ofsted !!)  

Steve is right, consider separating out the question into Compliance and Quality Compliance = no funding or audit requirement to evidence initial assessment for learners who present exemption evide...

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Dan Hodgetts commented,

Gotcha - makes sense Thanks Martin

Gotcha - makes senseThanks Martin

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Dan Hodgetts commented,

True....but in this case the learner had first day in learning, was reported in the ILR but disengaged shortly after so was put back to start as effectively the first day in learning was also their last. Do they need a new ILR record or do we update the existing one?

True....but in this case the learner had first day in learning, was reported in the ILR but disengaged shortly after so was put back to start as effectively the first day in learning was also their...

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Dan Hodgetts commented,

Thanks Steve - i know it was an obvious question but also bee reading about ATAs and was concerned if this fell into that category. Do you have any experience of ATAs and if this is in anyway near the scope of that?

Thanks Steve - i know it was an obvious question but also bee reading about ATAs and was concerned if this fell into that category. Do you have any experience of ATAs and if this is in anyway near ...