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Phil Dawe commented,
Steve Hewitt I would agree but it would depend on their dob - age on 1st Aug would have to be 24 and not 25. Adam have you looked at Supported Internships - Very Similar to Traineeships but designed to be longer in duration and scope than a traineeship and specifically for learners with an EHCP? Phil
Steve Hewitt I would agree but it would depend on their dob - age on 1st Aug would have to be 24 and not 25. Adam have you looked at Supported Internships - Very Similar to Traineeships but designe...
Phil Dawe commented,
Martin West as ever you are spot on. Steve Hewitt In my defence it was MS edge that corrected my spelling - which just means I should proof read better :-) Molly Ellison I've just done a quick test on submit learner data and as Martin says, it is looking for the earliest start date in the ILR. What I did see though that might help you pin point your issue is that in the detailed Rule Violation Report that SLD creates for you, column F has all the Field values that it is using to do the check. In your report what value does it have for 'LearnStartDate' and does that date match your expectation? HTH Phil
Martin West as ever you are spot on. Steve Hewitt In my defence it was MS edge that corrected my spelling - which just means I should proof read better :-) Molly Ellison I've just done a quick tes...
Phil Dawe commented,
Steve Hewitt please excuse my pedantry :-) ....but.... the rule says that "a PA record must exist that matches the earliest start date." It doesn't say whether that start date is the earliest in the Academic year/ILR return or the earliest the learning agreement/period of learning. Just a thought. Phil
Steve Hewitt please excuse my pedantry :-) ....but.... the rule says that "a PA record must exist that matches the earliest start date." It doesn't say whether that start date is the earliest in th...
Phil Dawe commented,
Hi Molly Ellison, I think that the ESFA help desk and the ILR team are at odds here. The ILR guidance says that a prior attainment record must be added at the start of for each learning agreement - no mention of Academic year: from - ILR Specification: Entity: Prior Attainment (submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk) Notes This entity is completed when the learning agreement has been agreed between the learner and provider. The prior attainment relevant to the agreement is recorded on the ILR with the start date matching the earliest learning aim start date for the agreement. Where all learning activities relating to the agreement have been completed and if the learner progresses into further learning with the same provider, a new learning agreement is made and a new prior attainment to reflect that learning agreement is recorded. ... Do the learners in question have other aims in your ILR that overlap the new aims? if not SLD may be seeing it as a new learning agreement and as such is raising an error as there is no new Prior attainment record. HTH Phil
Hi Molly Ellison, I think that the ESFA help desk and the ILR team are at odds here. The ILR guidance says that a prior attainment record must be added at the start of for each learning agreement -...
Phil Dawe commented,
Hi Laura Giles, From the Provider support manual: Provider support manual: Recording breaks in learning, transfers and restarts (submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk) If the learning aim that the learner was following is no longer available when they return (in other words, the certification date has passed), then you cannot class this as a break in learning. This limits the length of time that a learner can have as a break in learning. Unfortunately I think that this means you will lose both funding and success rate credit. HTH, Phil
Hi Laura Giles, From the Provider support manual: Provider support manual: Recording breaks in learning, transfers and restarts (submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk) If the learning aim that the le...
Phil Dawe commented,
Hi Adam Kolaszynski, You can submit as many ILRs as you need to on SLD until the period close. You just need to be careful when uploading more than once as the last one that you submit will be the one they use :-) HTH, Phil
Hi Adam Kolaszynski, You can submit as many ILRs as you need to on SLD until the period close. You just need to be careful when uploading more than once as the last one that you submit will be the ...
Phil Dawe commented,
Hi Samantha Barker, Manage your education and skills funding: https://skillsfunding.service.gov.uk/ under the funding claims tile you can filter the claim types for Final reconciliation statements. I can see back to 2015/16 on ours. HTH Phil
Hi Samantha Barker, Manage your education and skills funding: https://skillsfunding.service.gov.uk/ under the funding claims tile you can filter the claim types for Final reconciliation statements....
Phil Dawe commented,
Hi Neil, Yep you have it spot on. From ILR PSM: https://guidance.submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk/psm/article/apprenticeship-recording-changes If an apprentice does not return from an agreed break in learning, then the learning aims must be updated to indicate that the apprentice has withdrawn. Refer to guidance for recording learner absence or withdrawal. Phil
Hi Neil, Yep you have it spot on. From ILR PSM: https://guidance.submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk/psm/article/apprenticeship-recording-changes If an apprentice does not return from an agreed bre...
Phil Dawe commented,
If you withdrew the learner in 20/21 then you will not be able to re-start them - Unless you recorded the withdrawal as a break in learning. You may still be able to put them through the EPA but you would have to contact your EPO to confirm if they will be able to claim the Apprenticeship cert without an open record in the DAS. Also, you say that you have withdrawn them, so I assume you did not receive the completion element in June? This might affect how you finance the EPA. HTH Phil
If you withdrew the learner in 20/21 then you will not be able to re-start them - Unless you recorded the withdrawal as a break in learning. You may still be able to put them through the EPA but yo...
Phil Dawe commented,
Hi Charlotte Carlin, Just re-read the QAR business rules and these terms - Leaver, Completer, Achiever - are mysteriously absent. They are common terms that we all use but can be misleading in that they allude to being learner statuses when in fact they can be either learners or Enrolments depending on which QAR you are looking at Qualifications, Traineeship or Apprenticeship. I define the above terms as: LEAVER - Any Enrolment/Apprentice/trainee that has passed their Qualification period and is not in any of the QAR exclusion categories and has a completion status of 2 (Completed) or 3 (Withdrawn) - and in some cases 6 - i.e. has not returned from a BIL within the allocated time limit. Completer - Any Enrolment/Apprentice/trainee that has passed their Qualification period and is not in any of the QAR exclusion categories and has a completion status of 2 (Completed) Regardless or outcome Achiever - Any Enrolment/Apprentice/trainee that has passed their Qualification period and is not in any of the QAR exclusion categories and has a completion status of 2 (Completed) And an Outcome of 1 (Achieved) HTH Phil
Hi Charlotte Carlin, Just re-read the QAR business rules and these terms - Leaver, Completer, Achiever - are mysteriously absent. They are common terms that we all use but can be misleading in t...