Ben James

Remaining payments for redundant apprentice

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One of our apprentices has been made redundant but they are eligible to continue by virtue of having completed the necessary number of months of their programme etc. Their record has been updated with the appropriate employment status/monitoring codes (although the guidance says to use OET3 for redundancy, where the ILR spec says OET1 is for redundancy.. which is not at all confusing), and we've got an open ACT1 per the instructions. 

My question is more of a curiosity.. but can anyone provide (or hazard) a technical explanation of how do we get paid? The guidance assures us that we'll still receive the money, up to the funding band max, despite the fact that DAS has been stopped.. so do the ESFA just flag any apprentice record that's got an OET1 code on it, and then pony up out of some other pot?

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Ruth Canham-James

I found one from a few years ago and yes, the remaining payments (including completion) just appeared in the "co-investments" column (that ESFA pay us) in the Apps Monthly Payment Report. It seems to have created a second line on the report, tagged as Non-Levy (though we never created a new ACT row). It was a source of great confusion to me over which Employment History record to enter OET1 on, but we entered it on the new unemployed record, and that worked.

Steve Hewitt

I don't think it uses the OET Redundancy flag because it used to do it before that flag existed. Without ferreting through the full funding calc, I think it just assumes that if a learner is not employed but still on programme that you must have done it on purpose and therefore the learner must be redundant and therefore they pay it out of the magic porridge pot...

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Like Ruth I have also had learners like this and we have still received funding for them, but I have had a case where we didn't get the completion payment, after lots of back and forth with the helpdesk, we put in an EAS claim to get the completion payment, I am sure you will anyway, but check your payments, and at least you know there is a last option if you don't get the funding!

Ben James

Very much appreciate you all, thank you.