CME

Standard Funding Band Max

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Hi all,

can someone point me in the direction of where i can find the ESFA Gov spreadsheet which listed all the standard codes and what the funding band max was for each of them?

I cant seem to find it anywhere.

Many thanks

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Ruth Canham-James

It's in the LARS table called Apprenticeship Funding. You download as a CSV and it's one of the files. It shows the whole history, so you have to filter for where EffectiveTo is blank, band max is column R. It only gives you the Standard number though, not the name. You can look it up using the table just called Standard. Not ideal, but I don't know of any other list.

Steve Hewitt

They've withdrawn it because EPAOs aren't on APAR any more. A stupid stupid idea done with no consultation or understanding of the extra work it will make for people...

Currently, best option is to go here:

Apprenticeship search / Institute for Apprenticeships and Technical Education

and click the Download List of Standards button on the right hand side. Amongst many other things, this does include both max Funding Band and the "LARS code" (ie the value we put in the ILR), just be aware that both expired Standards and those yet to be approved are also on the list...

BUT, as IfATE is on its last legs, WHO KNOWS where it will be in the future...

CME

Thank you so much Steve, really helpful :-)

Steve Hewitt

As far as I'm aware, IfATE's functions are being folded into Skills England, but no idea what's happening to the website...

(something something "an IfATE worse than death"? is this anything?)

Steve Hewitt

Oh, that's super weird! There was a Ruth Canham-James post here replying to mine and now it's gone!!! Henry Wish, what's going on??? Can't have problems with one of our best posters!

CME

I cant see Ruths posts either but had the email come through with the reply!!! strange!!!

Ruth Canham-James

Urgh, my Communities replies are being hidden again!

I’d originally replied to CME with:

It's in the LARS table called Apprenticeship Funding. You download as a CSV and it's one of the files. It shows the whole history, so you have to filter for where EffectiveTo is blank, band max is column R. It only gives you the Standard number though, not the name. You can look it up using the table just called Standard. Not ideal, but I don't know of any other list.

That didn't appear when I logged out. I then tried to reply to Steve saying:

That's useful! I hadn't spotted that. Easier that using LARS data as I suggested as it already just shows the latest band max and it has the title. What's replacing IfATE? I do use it pretty regularly. I was using it the other day over some confusion with a Standard that got renamed when there was a new version. Same ST and ILR code, but a new name 😕 (92 - "Engineering design and draughtsperson" to "Engineering Design Technician").

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Steve Hewitt

Maybe Rachael could help us (just because you've been posting pinned messages and haven't seen much of Henry recently!

Screen grab of RC-J's post just in case it goes again!

Henry Wish (ESFA)

Fixed, it was incorrectly flagged as spam. Not sure why but please accept our apologies.

Kind regards,

Henry 

Steve Hewitt

Cheers Henry!