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Agree with Chloe. Unfortunately, there's currently no way of identifying apprentices with RPL in the ILR, so it will likely appear of some PDSAT or FRM reports. That's fine if you've got clear notes and evidence about why. It might be worth using a custom field to record it in your MI system so you know which have RPL.
Hi All,
From my understanding, the look-up table at annex C gives guidance as to what RPL reduction can be applied, so for example for a min OTJ of 487, it equates to a min of 21 months training, but if the learner had relevant RPL that would reduce the programme below 21 months, then by using the look-up table it will show you the new minimum required, e.g. if it reduced to 19 months training then the OTJ would then be 418 hours.
Further to this is how this affects the calculations with regards to the reduction in funding as there is no longer a direct correlation to OTJ and hours on programme, but the new funding rules doesn't appear to address this as such, as it still seems to be written in a similar way to last years?
Or, is it suggesting that although they have published a minimum OTJ figure, if your programme is greater than the 'minimum' number of months you would have to base it on the old calculations (as per the look-up table) and put your OTJ down as per how many months/weeks you run the programme? For example, we run the plumbing standard which is 48 months, (which would work out at 1114 hours OTJ), but the calculation as per Annex C suggests that the minimum OTJ is 857, which equates to 37 months (God only knows how people are achieving this properly in that time without RPL??) All the webinars I have been on so far, all suggest that we can simply put 857 hours down, regardless of whether we keep them on the 48 month programme; it would only be if we need to deliver it over a shorter period due to RPL, that falls below the 37 months, would we reduce the RPL.
Anyone got any thoughts/advice on this one at all please?
Tracey Richardson There are no minimum durations per Standard any more, it's just the universal minimum of 8 months. The minimum hours without RPL are on Annex C. The minimum hours for anyone with RPL is 187. Anyone with RPL that would take their hours below 187, is not eligible. You can sort of apply the same to durations, but it's less clear cut as there isn't a fixed duration per Standard, just the usual plan for your provider, which can vary between providers. If we had a Standard that was usually 13 months, but someone had 50% RPL, that would take it below 8 months, but that would likely already be below 187 hours anyway, so the duration isn't really an issue.
There is a "Published Typical Duration" on the Skills England pages, but that only really matters when it comes to additional payments which would normally be paid at 365 days. If you deliver an apprenticeship with a published typical duration is 12+ months, but you deliver in less than 12 months, you never get the final additional payment. Same for Care Leaver Bursary.
Chris Ashfield
OTJ minimum and RPL 25-26
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Good morning,
we have had a couple of enquiries in relation to RPL and going below the new threshold of OTJ for standards.
Our understanding was that regardless of when an apprentice joins the programme, or how much of it they are completing, this minimum number of OTJ hours must still be met.
For example our APP academic professional Level 6 now has a baseline of 370 min OTJ hours but dependent of year of study they may come in direct to year 2 or 3 for example which would mean either having 363 or 282 OTJ planned hours which is below the 370.
Is this ok? im concerned this may error in the ILR or come out on the PDSATs reports still
Many thanks
79.1. A provider can plan to deliver more than the published minimum
requirement but can only deliver less if there is evidence of relevant prior
learning from the apprentice’s initial assessment (see paragraph 33).
For example: A learner has no prior learning and the standard requires a
minimum of 466 off-the-job training hours. The provider plans to deliver
more than the minimum requirement (550 hours) and the learner
completes with 500 hours of evidenced delivery. This is a compliant
programme (although an employer statement would be needed to explain
the difference between planned and actual hours (see paragraph 90).
If the above learner has 50 hours of prior learning the provider would
follow the RPL policy (see paragraph 33.2) and reduce their typical
planned hours from 550 hours to 500 hours. For compliance purposes the
minimum requirement for the standard would also reduce, by the same
amount (from 466 hours to 416 hours), to account for the prior learning.
Provided the learner received more than 416 hours of training this would
be a compliant programme, provided the employer statement (where
necessary) had been obtained.