Unfunded apprenticeship

Yes record this against FM99 with no ACT record the learner will be included in the Non-Contracted Apprenticeships Activity Report, the overall process is the same and the EPAO will apply for certification in the normal way.

Thanks Martin

Does anything need to be included under Funding & Monitoring then if the 'ACT' is removed? Thanks.

No, as no funding id funding down from the Levy or ESFA you leave this, the Apprenticeship Financial details and SOF blank.

HTH

'Apprenticeship Financial Record' is missing. As you've returned the 'end point assessment organisation' ID, you also need to return the end point assessment financial details. Check apprenticeship financial record includes the end point assessment price.

Having removed the SOF & Financial sections (to be blank), the error returning is regarding end point assessment, do we still have to return the EPA ID, or does it not matter as not funded through ESFA?

Thanks.

Leave it out.

Yes as it is a general (and specified) requirement in each Standard for an English Apprenticeship under the ACT.

HTH

Hi, another question relating to commercial learners....

What happens if an Apprentice resides and works more than 50% in Scotland or Wales - presumably they wouldn't be eligible for a commercial FM99 route as they don't meet ESFA residential eligibility criteria?

In that case could the Provider simply have a commercial agreement with the employer that doesn't get reported in the ILR and therefore Funding Rules wouldn't apply?

Thanks as always

No, if the Apprenticeship is delivered in line with the funding rules for those who are ineligible for funding then they should be recorded on the ILR under funding model 99.

HTH

If an employer hadn't reserved funding in time, could you record the apprenticeship as unfunded until such a time as they do reserve the funding? Considering the apprentice is on programme and is undertaking learning. 

Ben James Just wondering if you had an answer to this, as I have a similar situation? TIA

Following on from Dan Hodgetts question - with an unfunded Scottish learner - how is the ULN generated as the learner will have no record on LRS but will have an SCN - is the ULN simply returned with 999999999?

 If a ULN cannot be obtained for a learner then 9999999999 must be returned, except where an apprenticeship is funded through a contract for services with the employer (FundModel = 36 and LearnDelFAMType = ACT1)

Michelle Leonard

Sorry, missed this tag completely. The answer unfortunately is no. We initially asked the ESFA but received no response, so went ahead and processed the first portion of the programme as unfunded, up until the time that funds were reserved, at which point we added a funded POT with the appropriate dates/prices. This worked, and we began to receive the proper funding. However, we recently finally received a response stating;

You previously raised an incident with our Specialist team.
 
The Specialist team have been in touch today to let us know the following information:
 
'A reservation of funds is intended to pay for the whole apprenticeship. Therefore, it is not possible to fund part of the apprenticeship privately.'
 
The period prior to the reservation can't be included as part of the apprenticeship and recorded as privately funded.

No worries Ben James. I suspected as much. Thank you for confirming though, really appreciate it

Just to add to the above, we have a learner on an unfunded apprenticeship but we are getting errors because of her age. This is why we have put her unfunded. How can we get her on the ILR with no errors so we cn get her certificated?

Any help on this would be appreciated