Helen Ogden
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Helen Ogden commented,
I meant to say also Ruth I totally agree with you on the issue of being able to include learners earlier. We have very few who drop out early anyway, and as you say funding can be clawed back for those few. We are going to discuss this internally today so thanks for your feedback
I meant to say also Ruth I totally agree with you on the issue of being able to include learners earlier. We have very few who drop out early anyway, and as you say funding can be clawed back for t...
Helen Ogden commented,
Hi Ruth thanks for your reply. That's interesting to hear that you don't wait 42 days. We have always tried to abide by the 42 day rule to avoid non-starters becoming early withdrawals and ending up on our PDSAT reports. Technically we prefer to accurately record them as non starters in our system when we can. In our system we have to QA verify before they go into the ILR so we tend to pick up non starters fairly quickly, although some do inevitably slip through. So their data is there but we don't do the final approval before 42 days to move them into the ILR xml file. If we were to submit and later remove them surely we'd get an FRM06 because they would disappear from the ILR? However, I've thought of a potential solution for us which would be that we do QA all learners who are due into the ILR as soon as the submissions window is open (e.g. for R04) and I do an early submission (as soon after R03 is closed as possible). That means that the data will be available on the apps service and our administrator can them use the automated process. We then have about a 3 week window to check for any non-starters who I should be able to exclude from the ILR before R04 hard close. So those should in theory never go into the final ILR and the problem will be solved. I didn't think about the submission window being open for about 3 weeks when I posted yesterday. I was just thinking would it mean our administrator had to QA a large batch of learners rather than doing what she does now which is cohort by cohort. We will give it a go and see what happens as I like the idea in principle and it should have the benefit of eliminating DLocks which will definitely be a large time saving and mean that data is accurate on both systems.
Hi Ruth thanks for your reply. That's interesting to hear that you don't wait 42 days. We have always tried to abide by the 42 day rule to avoid non-starters becoming early withdrawals and ending u...
Helen Ogden commented,
I have just called emailed the help desk as sampler unavailable to me this morning. I am running a practise audit process on a historical sampler file to get a feel for how it works. Can anyone help me please. I'm stuck on the button that says 'import D4'. It seems to be asking for FM36. I know we can see the FM36 on screen in Submit learner data but wasn't aware that it is file we can download. Can anyone offer any insight please?
I have just called emailed the help desk as sampler unavailable to me this morning. I am running a practise audit process on a historical sampler file to get a feel for how it works. Can anyone he...
Helen Ogden commented,
I too have been struggling with PDSAT, ever since it went on-line really. I now have a new challenge which I am hoping that someone can help me with. I need to use the Sampler. I have contacted the PDSAT helpdesk a number of times and they have told me to use FIS generated reports. I have run my xml file through FIS and asked the helpdesk which reports I need to upload to PDSAT but no response. Can anyone advise me please? At the moment I am not actually able to get into PDSAT again as it won't run and I do not have the time to keep doing an trial and error approach. So once I can get into it I want to have a clear idea of what to do. Can anyone give me a quick overview of what to do?
I too have been struggling with PDSAT, ever since it went on-line really. I now have a new challenge which I am hoping that someone can help me with. I need to use the Sampler. I have contacted the...
Helen Ogden commented,
It should appear in submissions history as shown below. Your R06 report might not be available yet. I tend to find it appears 2-3 days after submission. Hope this helps [image]
It should appear in submissions history as shown below. Your R06 report might not be available yet. I tend to find it appears 2-3 days after submission. Hope this helps
Helen Ogden commented,
I reported this too and have had an email this morning from the ESFA helpdesk informing me that the technical issue is solved and that anyone affected by it needs to re-submit their ILR.
I reported this too and have had an email this morning from the ESFA helpdesk informing me that the technical issue is solved and that anyone affected by it needs to re-submit their ILR.