Louise Garratt

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Thanks Ruth, much appreciated. Everything you've said is what I was going to go with but just after posting on here, I decided to email the help desk with exactly the same questions and they have just replied -   Thank you for contacting ESFA Customer Service. Yes, you will need to record the Restart Indicator, and the original learning start date. As this is a restart of the same apprenticeship, if the learner was previously enrolled with yourself on the prior episodes of learning, the price recorded on the new aim should be the same as the old aim, unless you have renegotiated the cost of the entire apprenticeship. As the learner started in 2018, the learner will be funded as per the applicable funding rules as of their very first day of learning. In this instance, yes, the employer will be required to co-investment 10% contributions where required. Price cap (funding band limit) applies to new starts on a particular apprenticeship programme. As this is a restart and not a new start, the original funding band limit will apply. Not that I don't trust their advice (!) but I'm now in a bit of a quandary as I don't want to be in a position where we have collected too much or too little co-investment or exceed the (new) funding band limit. I would like to get it on the ILR then look at the reports to see how they are calculating but the new employer wants to know in advance what the monetary commitment is. I think I'll give them worst case scenario and hope it doesn't deter them! Thanks again for responding.  

Thanks Ruth, much appreciated. Everything you've said is what I was going to go with but just after posting on here, I decided to email the help desk with exactly the same questions and they have j...

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Hi all I queried it yesterday with the help desk and this is what I got back. I was looking at last years rules which didn't help so the bilateral question isn't an issue! I'm going with 411.1 as I assume they are returning with parents but will get it checked -    I have checked the latest apprenticeship funding rules for main providers and cannot find any reference to "bilateral agreements". The reference does appear in the 2020/2021 funding rules but as the person would be beginning their apprenticeship in the 2021/2022 year, these funding rules would apply: "P389 UK nationals are eligible for funding if they:  P389.1 have been ordinarily resident in the UK, the British Overseas Territories, or Crown Dependencies (Channel Islands and Isle of Man) for at least the previous three years before the start of the apprenticeship.  (2021-07-28_-_2122_Provider_Rules_Version_Version_1.pdf (publishing.service.gov.uk) The funding rules also state that for 16-18 year olds: "Further information for 16 to 18-year-olds P411 16 to 18-year-olds are eligible to be funded for an apprenticeship if any of the following clauses apply:  P411.1 they are accompanying or joining parents who have the right of abode, leave to enter or leave to remain in the UK; P411.2 they are the children of diplomats;  P411.3 they are the children of teachers coming to the UK on a teacher exchange scheme;  P411.4 they are entering the UK (where not accompanied by their parents) and are British citizens; P411.5 they have a passport that has been endorsed to either show they have the right of abode in the United Kingdom or to show that they have no restrictions on working in the UK;  P411.6 they are an asylum seeker; P411.7 they are placed in the care of the local authority;" If none of the above apply then it appears that he would not be eligible for apprenticeship funding as he has only been resident in the UK for 1 year. Thanks all for your input Louise

Hi all I queried it yesterday with the help desk and this is what I got back. I was looking at last years rules which didn't help so the bilateral question isn't an issue! I'm going with 411.1 as I...

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Louise Garratt commented,

Thanks Martin. I hadn't realised that stopping a reservation didn't prohibit the move to new the employer. Thanks for joining the dots for me!

Thanks Martin. I hadn't realised that stopping a reservation didn't prohibit the move to new the employer. Thanks for joining the dots for me!

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Louise Garratt commented,

Fantastic, thank you. That box isn't visible so I'll rest easy! Thank you very much Martin, much appreciated.  

Fantastic, thank you. That box isn't visible so I'll rest easy! Thank you very much Martin, much appreciated.  

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